HISTSEX ARCHIVES: DECEMBER 1999
© Lesley Hall and list contributors
From: "Rictor Norton" <norton@rictor.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Homosexuality in 18th-cent. England
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 08:45:51 -0000
Listmembers may be interested in my revamped and expanded series of web
pages:
Homosexuality in Eighteenth-Century England: A Sourcebook
http://www.infopt.demon.co.uk/eighteen.htm
This now contains 27 primary documents, mostly transcripts of early
18th-cent. sodomy trials. The pages are boringly text-based, with no bells
or whistles (not even frames), though there are a couple of illustrations
from early broadsheets.
--
Rictor Norton
mailto:norton@rictor.freeserve.co.uk
http://www.infopt.demon.co.uk/eighteen.htm
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From: Kazetnik@aol.com
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 11:25:29 EST
Subject: Q: 20th century British prison records
Hi all
Does anyone know how one would go about finding out the details (crime,
prison etc) of those sentenced for sexual offences in Britain during 1960s
and 1970s? Or even if it is possible?
Thanks.
Chris White
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From: Kazetnik@aol.com
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 12:35:07 EST
Subject: Re: 20th century British prison records
Hi Lesley
Thanks for the guidance and directions. I was utterly in the dark since it's
way outside my period of 'expertise'. Next stop the PRO, I guess.
Best wishes
Chris
___________________________________________________________________ From: "Lesley Hall" <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>
Subject: Re: 20th century British prison records
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 16:37:00 -0000
Chris White enquired
>Does anyone know how one would go about finding out the details (crime,
>prison etc) of those sentenced for sexual offences in Britain during 1960s
>and 1970s? Or even if it is possible?
Tricky. Aggregate stats would probably be published by the Home Office
(and/or the Prison Service) but I'm not sure that would give the refinement
of detail you require. For the 60s, you might get more detail from relevant
files at the Public Record Office, but on the other hand, if they contain
sensitive/confidential material they might not yet be opened under the 30
year rule. And 1970s material is likely to be released year by year during
the 00s, unless there is some radical change (and speaking as an archivist,
my feeling is that there is a limit to what PRO staff could actually cope
with processing even if it were theoretically made available).
It's also possible that bodies with penal reform agendas, like the
Howard League, NACRO etc, publish stats, have records etc (but voluntary
bodies are not on the whole wellserved in terms of appropriate archival
repositories and are very diverse in their attention to their own history).
Lesley
Lesley Hall
lesleyah@primex.co.uk
website http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah
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From: "Lesley Hall" <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>
Subject: Re: 20th century British prison records
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 17:57:32 -0000
I forgot to give the URL for the PRO's excellent website
http://www.pro.gov.uk
Lesley
Lesley Hall
lesleyah@primex.co.uk
website http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah
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From: Swamp1800@aol.com
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 17:41:00 EST
Subject: Re: Homosexuality in 18th-cent. England
I'm new to the list and suppose there have already been many rave reviews for
Rictor Norton's web page. It is proving quite helpful to me. My current
project is to examine how Pierre L'Enfant's sexual orientation may have been
an important factor in his stopping work on the implementation of his plan
for Washington, DC. In my book on the founding of Washington, published ten
years ago, I alluded to L'Enfant's probably being homosexual but did not
think it had any bearing on the dramatic events surrounding his alienation
from the project in 1792. Now I am having second thoughts. While there was no
explicit branding or even gossip about L'Enfant's sexuality in 1791 and 1792
(the first hints of that I've uncovered occurred in 1793), I'm wondering if
some of the language used to denigrate him might have been coded words
referring to his homosexuality. For example in their letters to President
George Washington and Secretary of State Jefferson, the Commissioners of the
City frequently refer to L'Enfant's "temper." I had previously read that as
temper as in temperamental artist. But could it be alluding to his temper as
in his make-up, his moral fiber, if you will? I sense that in L'Enfant's case
the powers-that-were did protest too much. Washington tells the
commissioners: "in proportion to the yieldings of the Commissioners his
claims would extend. Such upon a nearer view, appears to be the nature of the
Man!" Am I letting my imagination run away with me or does his writing
"nature of the Man" with an exclamation point mean that Washington doubts
L'Enfant's manliness? Of course this is a case of someone who should be a
courtier, as he must have been when he was in favor, suddenly acting like a
courtesan. There can also be class bias involved. Washington's language is
generally staid until slaves, overseers or tenants get his dander up. But
L'Enfant had been an officer in the Revolution, a member and designer of the
medallion used by the Society of the Cincinnati, an early pretense to
American nobility. Of course I should be asking these questions to scholars
buried in George Washington's letters. But provincial though America was back
in the 1790s, the lifting of the Revolutionary ban on theatrical performances
was again exposing members of the elite to the wit, wisdom and innuendo of
Restoration theater. The fashions of Paris would soon do away with all that
homespun at least for those with means. Any guidance including gut feelings
would be greatly appreciated. More information on my book on Washington is at
my web page at http//members.aol.com/Swamp1800. Click "sample chapter" and
you can read what I wrote about L'Enfant's last days on the city project.
Bob Arnebeck
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From: "Rena Blackwood" <rblackwood@hotmail.com>
Subject: Identity Formation and Expression in Homosexuals
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 05:16:34 PST
Hi,
I'm new to Listbot so i'm not sure how this works. I'm currently working on
my Masters Thesis on identity formation and expression in Jamaican
Homosexuals. I'm just in the conceptualisation stage, as i'm not quite sure
yet how I'm going to measure the process of identity formation. I do know it
will be a difficult task give the homophobic society in which i conducting
the study. Any ideas, insight or comments you may have will be greatly
appreciated.
Rena Blackwood
___________________________________________________________________ Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 11:38:13 -0500
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Date: 6 Dec 1999 21:56:30 -0000
From: "Histsex:For historians of sexuality" <histsex-owner@listbot.com>
Subject: Introductions/Research Interests Register
This is another periodical welcome to new list members, and request for
people who have recently signed on (or who have not yet got around to it
after being on the list for a while) to introduce themselves and their
interests in history of sexuality.
I also draw list-members' attention to the history of sexuality research
interests register at http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah/hofsresr.htm
which is still in a developing state. If you would like to be included on
this register, please e-mail me at lesleyah@primex.co.uk (NOT via the
list) with the following details: your name, any institutional
affiliation, e-mail address (and if desired other contact info) and the
area of your research, preferably using terms that others are likely to
search under, details of website if applicable. (Sending your details to
the list at large does not enter you on the register: this is a separate
choice)
Lesley Hall
histsex-owner@listbot.com
lesleyah@primex.co.uk
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Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 19:00:38 -0600
From: "M.E. Buszek" <buszekme@chickmail.com>
Subject: Re: Introductions/Research Interests Register
On 6 Dec 1999 21:57:28 -0000 Lesley Hall wrote:
>This is another periodical welcome to new list members, and request for
>people who have recently signed on (or who have not yet got around to it
>after being on the list for a while) to introduce themselves and their
>interests in history of sexuality.
Greetings to all HistSex list members. I am Maria Buszek, and recently subscribed to the list to keep up on issues that might come up pertaining to my dissertation in art history, "Pin-Up Grrls: Feminism, Fine Arts, and the Pin-Up Genre, 1860 to the present." My research/writing is focused on the phenomenon of the "feminist pin-up," which artists from Annie Sprinkle to Renee Cox to Judy Chicago have used in their work. I am working backwards into history, in hopes of tracking a feminist thread within the genre that puts these contemporary uses of it in context. (And happy to say that this thread *exists*, right to the pin-up's modern origins in the mid-19th century! In fact, I have an article on this very moment in pin-up history coming out in this month's _TDR: The Journal of Performance Studies_)
I've found the frank and open-minded discussion of sex studies refreshing, as well as useful to
my own work. (I subscribed shortly after my colleague at the University of Kansas, fellow Ph.D.
student Tammy Balducci, forwarded me a list discussion pertaining to pin-ups and the "Page-Three Girl.") Looking forward to future threads on the listserv...as well as continuing to learn
from the knowledge-pool it contains!
Many thanks,
Maria-Elena Buszek
Ph.D. Candidate/GMOF Fellow
Kress Foundation Department
of Art History
The University of Kansas
buszekme@chickmail.com
http://falcon.cc.ukans.edu/~buszekme
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From: Swamp1800@aol.com
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 13:29:22 EST
Subject: Re: Introductions/Research Interests Register
Hello List members. I'm Bob Arnebeck and live in a river in the middle of the
St. Lawrence River between the US and Canada. I spend most of my days and
energy tracking otters and watching beavers. Otters here have a strange sex
life, not at all like your European otters, but that is not what I am on the
list. I spent many years researching the 1790s in US history, specifically
the founding of Washington, D.C., and the yellow fever epidemics of that
period. I have web sites on both and a book on Washington. Much of the
unfinished business I have with the period revolves around sex so I thought
I'd lurk on the this list and glean from those of you who take a broad view
of the matter some insights that might illuminate the narrow strip of time
I'm stuck in. I've already mentioned L'Enfant's sexuality. I am also pursuing
the tragedy of Charles Adams, John and Abigail Adams' second son. Since both
L'Enfant and Adams were close to Baron von Steuben, I am of course interested
in him. My studies in yellow fever acquainted me with effect epidemics had on
morals at the time, thus engendering many petty questions in my mind: in the
1793 riot against New York City's whore houses why did the mayor and the
elite rally to defend the brothels? When the sons of Benjamin Rush destroyed
their father's journal of his self medication were they destroying evidence
that the doctor prized the need for sexual activity above the stricter
morality gripping the English speaking world in the early 19th century? etc.
etc. So there it is. I'm a puddle of late 18th century American gossip and
you all are oceans of knowledge I'd like to link up with.
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From: JNKATZ1@aol.com
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 14:07:00 EST
Subject: 1790s U.S.
Dear Bob Arnebeck:
I hope you do research and write more about this unknown period in U.S.
sexual history.
Can you tell us more about Charles Adams, John and Abigail Adams' second son?
The info on L'Enfant is interesting, and that he and Adams were close to
Baron von Steuben sounds promising. Serious research on von Steuben would be
great. I've read only gossip gay history.
I forget, did Benjamin Rush write anything about sexuality, or perhaps about
masturbation between men?
I hope that you know of the love letters from Alexander Hamilton to another
soldier, reprinted in my book GAY AMERICAN HISTORY, and my additional comment
on these letters, "Alexander Hamilton's Nose," published in The Advocate,
October 10, 1988, p. 29.
I believe it's very important to study the specific ways sexuality was
socially ordered, named, and thought about in a particular time period and
place, and I hope that you stress this in any work you do. That is, I'm
against imposing our modern "gay" or "homosexual" concepts and forms of
organization on the past.
Best of luck, Jonathan Ned Katz
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Subject: Meiji Japan - Authority and homosexuality
Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 19:30:44 -0800
From: "andrei-f" <andrei-f@goplay.com>
Hello,
A reader posted the following question on the Androphile site, and if
anyone here can help him please let me know.
"I am currently studying for my BA in Oriental Studies at Cambridge
University. At the moment, I am researching how social
exclusion was legitimised and systematised in Meiji/19th century
Japan. Despite its deep rooted tradition, it appears that
homosexuality in Japan has been as yet little researched. I have
consulted all of the books mentioned in the article on male love
in Japan, [Gary Leupp, 'Male Colors,' Watanabe and Iwata, 'The Love
of the Samurai'] but I wondered if anyone could suggest some further
reading, in particular, with regard to change/continuity in the
state's view of homosexuality in the Tokugawa then Meiji periods."
Thank you,
Andrei
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From: "Chris Willis" <chris@chriswillis.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Book recommendation
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 14:07:01 -0000
Hi!
I've just finished reading "Trumpet" by Jackie Kay, which is so good that I
can't resist recommending it to everyone else on the list. It's very
loosely based on the true story of a successful jazz musician, who was born
female but passed as a man for all of his adult life. It's beautifully
written, and absolutley fascinating.
All the best
Chris
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Chris Willis
English Dept
Birkbeck College
Malet Street
London WC1E 7HX
Chris@chriswillis.freeserve.co.uk
http://www.chriswillis.freeserve.co.uk/
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Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 16:02:09 +0000
From: Stacy Gillis <stacy.gillis@ukonline.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Book recommendation
Hi -
To pick up on Chris' book review, I would recommend Anne Marie MacDonald's
_Fall on your Knees_. An extremely compelling novel, detailing the impact
of incest on a Cape Breton family. There is also an interesting bit in New
York about a female musician passing as a man. It is an incredible novel
and left a mental aftertaste for months. Do read it.
Cheers,
Stacy
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Stacy Gillis
University of Exeter
stacy.gillis@ukonline.co.uk
I may not here omit those two main plagues and
common dotages of human kind, wine and women,
which have infatuated and besotted myriads of people;
they go commonly together. (Robert Burton)
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From: Swamp1800@aol.com
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 09:11:43 EST
Subject: Re: 1790s U.S.
I hope to get all the information I have about Charles Adams on my web page
in a month or two. I am familiar with some of the good work you've done with
the Hamilton-Laurens letters. Now I'll try to give a brief idea of what I'm
thinking about. Let's begin with Baron von Steuben's famous will in which
Cols. Walker and North are made his sons. Both were members of the Baron's
"military family" during the Revolution. The will was witnessed by two young
lawyers, John Mulligan, Jr., and Charles Adams (who clerked with Hamilton.)
Of course the younger men did not serve in the Revolution. Mulligan, I
believe, stayed with the Baron and served as his secretary. As far as I can
tell the Baron's devotion for North and Walker, and the reciprocal devotion
of his military family, raised no eyebrows, but the inclusion of Adams and
Mulligan as witnesses to the will suggest that the Baron's project was to
extend the camaraderie of his military family to a new generation. To me it's
still unclear how homoerotic the Baron's set was, but it seems Adams' parents
frowned on it. The Baron mentions an anguished letter from Charles which is
no longer extant. The Baron died soon after the will; young Adams married the
sister of his brother-in-law William Smith who himself had been a member of
the Baron's "military family." The marriage occurred before Charles had
established himself and it is supposed that his parents countenanced it just
to get him away from the Baron's set. JQ Adams also was attracted to Miss
Smith and somewhat shocked at the hasty marriage. Charles and wife had two
daughters and he began his career as lawyer. JQA went on to be a diplomat.
His proud father gave him $5000. JQA entrusted most of the money to Charles
who used it to secure notes of Wm. Smith's brother. The money was lost, to
the Adams family's great alarm. Within two years of that Charles abandoned
his family, became a habitue of the dives of New York, then returned to his
family to die in December 1800 just as his father lost his bid for reelection
as president. Historians think the loss of $5000 sufficient reason for
Charles to drink himself to death. I think there's more to it. I should add
that most of the biographies about the Adams family members are woefully
inadequate. Since John Adams served as the foils for Jefferson and Hamilton,
he is often cast as the bumpkin - Honest John the simple New England lawyer.
The Adams family was arguably the most sophisticated family in America.
As for Benjamin Rush, I don't think he wrote about sexuality per se and I
assume he was robustly heterosexual. He left all his papers to his sons and
they are indeed a treasure trove of medical information. What the sons
destroyed was the journal of his own health. Rush's remedies, which are
ridiculed today, were still in vogue when his sons destroyed that journal.
Furthermore in those days before double-blind testing, the physician's self
treatment was a real cutting edge of medical research. I am wondering if Rush
was too explicit in detailing the ills of the retention of semen, which I've
read was general medical dogma in those days. I wonder if he recognized the
need to use of whores and serving wenches, and that perhaps in the
destruction of his journal the best defense of his friend Tom Jefferson's use
of Sally went up in smoke.
In dealing with sex in the 1790s we are left sifting through information that
no longer exists - quite the opposite of this tell-all age. I think that
homosexuality and infidelity were facts of life in 1790. I'm trying to focus
on incidents that might elucidate how and the degree to which society quietly
tolerated behavior that a hundred years later it would publicly condemn. It
would be great to uncover a letter written at the time which discussed the
tragic turn to Charles Adams' and L'Enfant's lives. Failing that we are left
with finding a context for their lives based on the winks and nods and
pieties that pop up here and there. America in the 1790s was a provincial
upstart and Americans then and their immediate heirs evidently were loath to
mention, let alone dwell on, failure. Unfortunately I'm far away (and happy
to be far away) from libraries and archives, but the web seems a great place
to throw things out in the hopes that somebody with stronger legs, not to
mention brain, will take the ball and run with it.
Bob Arnebeck
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From: "Lesley Hall" <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>
Subject: Re: 1790s U.S.
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 17:54:00 -0000
Re Benjamin Rush and the medical construction of sexual pathology: in E H
Hare's famous (?seminal, dare I say) paper in Journal of Mental Science on
the history of masturbatory insanity, he claims that the earliest definite
statement by an alienist on the mentally, rather than physically deleterious
effects of self-abuse was 'in the Medical Inquiries upon Diseases of the
Mind by Benjamin Rush (1812), Professor of Medicine at Philadelphia.... Rush
mentions onanism as among the causes which induce madness"'. But may have
been among those who considered fornication the lesser danger? (Hare does
not expand)
Lesley Hall
lesleyah@primex.co.uk
website http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah
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From: "PRATIKSHA Baxi" <pbaxi@satyam.net.in>
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 10:58:58 -0500
Lesley Hall wrote:
This is another periodical welcome to new list members, and request for
people who have recently signed on (or who have not yet got around to it
after being on the list for a while) to introduce themselves and their
interests in history of sexuality.
It is really high time I introduced myself, I must say I have really =
enjoyed being on the list.
I am Pratiksha Baxi, a doctoral student in Sociology at the Delhi School =
of Economics, University of Delhi, India. i am researching the =
constitution of rape trials in Indian courts. My fieldwork was located =
in a trial court where I managed to follow some incamera trials.
It has been an extremely exciting moment to chance upon histsex, to =
find a community of people with similar research interests.
Looking forward to sharing my work and drawing upon this minefield of =
information and support
pratiksha
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Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 15:58:55 EST
Subject: Re: No Subject
Pratisksha,
Your reasearch sounds fascinating. I edit and publish a women's sexuality
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HC
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Subject: Inq. Canadian Stonewall
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 17:45:30 -0600
From: "Michael J. Murphy" <mjmurphy@artsci.wustl.edu>
Does anyone know of a good secondary source which summarizes the events
surrounding the bathhouse raids and subsequent riots in Toronto, 1981?
Best,
Michael J. Murphy, M.A.
Graduate Student, Dept. of Art History and Archaeology
Washington University, St. Louis
mjmurphy@artsci.wustl.edu
"In episode #228, who or what is 'Foucauldian'? We have enclosed a
self-addressed stamped envelope for your convenience."
-Letter to Alison Bechdel, cartoonist of Dykes To Watch Out For
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From: Swamp1800@aol.com
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 21:34:03 EST
Subject: Re: 1790s U.S.
Actually my suspicions about Rush rest on very thin evidence. He was as much
a moralist as a doctor. I know him primarily through his work treating yellow
fever, and he sometimes cited "venery" as one of the activities that
predisposed someone to get the disease. Of course, Rush was a great one for
listing predisposing causes of diseases and a great one for combing the
medical literature of the day to add to his lists. I'm pretty excited to see
that Hare lists him as making the first mention of self abuse as a cause of
insanity. Perhaps someone poking around the letters he received from other
doctors and the families of patients will find some interesting
characterizations of sexual behavior.
On the other hand he was not the crazed theorists some have made him out to
be. In 1793 he noted that the fever increased "venereal appetites" among
convalescents. In 1798 he noted that female patients convalescing from yellow
fever, even those of the upper classes, were prone to expose themselves to
male attendants.
As for my thin evidence: in 1791 the famous John Stewart of London known as
"Walking Stewart" came to Philadelphia, already having had walked around much
of the world. Rush was fascinated by him and visited him twice. In his
Commonplace Book, Rush noted what he gleaned from his interviews: "...He
never dreams, has stools only once in four or five days, enjoys high health
and spirits, having had no sickness for many years, except once a fever from
eating too many grapes. His eye sight is perfect and pulse soft and regular.
He sleeps on his sides. His passions he says are equable and his appetite for
women so weak that he has lived 14 months without a connection with the sex."
And then Stewart goes on denigrating most of the non-English cultures of the
world. I've seen enough old British movies so that I can picture Stewart
standing up and revealing all this unsolicited. On the other hand, it might
reveal the line of questioning Rush employed in learning about a case since
he may very well have considered this eccentric tending toward madness. In
either case it seems to me that Rush thought the length of Stewart's
abstinence was notable. The question remains: how often did Rush think a man
needed "a connection" to maintain "equable" passions?
While we're on onanism: to my knowledge Rush never mentioned Tissot, but I
did come across a curious reference to Tissot in the diary of one of Rush's
medical students, Elihu Hubbard Smith. Smith detailed his reading, e.g.
Godwin's books, Erasmus Darwin, and the classics, and once mentioned reading
Tissot as part of his self-imposed program to learn French! I blush to admit
that I haven't read Tissot, but I've read that he likened loss of semen from
masturbating to losing 40 ounces of blood. At this time Rush and Smith were
advocating depletion especially through bloodletting as the best treatment
for yellow fever and other diseases. Alas, Smith died in the epidemic of 1798
and I can only imagine that it might have crossed his mind that one could
beat off the fever.
Bob Arnebeck
my web site on Rush and Yellow Fever is members.aol.com/Fever1793
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Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 19:12:50 -0800
From: chris dummitt <cdummitt@sfu.ca>
Subject: Re: Inq. Canadian Stonewall
Michael,
The first source which comes to mind is Gary Kinsman's _The Regulation of
Desire_. However, I can't remember how much is in there on the 1981
Toronto raids and I don't have a copy handy to check for certain. But it
is probably worth a look.
best,
christopher dummitt
Simon Fraser University
Chris Dummitt
Doctoral Candidate
Department of History
Simon Fraser University
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From: manohar@sangama.ilban.ernet.in
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 13:29:46
Subject: WELCOME TO SANGAMA - BANGALORE, INDIA
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Manohar
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From: "Rictor Norton" <norton@rictor.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Re: 1790s U.S.
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 23:19:03 -0000
Thanks, Bob Arnebeck, for your nice comment about my website on
homosexuality in 18th-cent England -- I'm glad it's useful. I haven't done
any primary research on the 18th-cent. American period, but I wouldn't be
surprised if they were pretty knowledgeable about homosexuality and sexual
orientation. A 1796 newspaper article on Von Steuben referred to an
"abominable rumor which accused Steuben of a crime the suspicion of which,
at another more exalted court of that time (as formerly among the Greeks)
would hardly have aroused such attention", which uses the kind of
sophisticated innuendo you mention. There is an interesting website on
"Baron von Steuben and Homosexuality" which includes illustrations of where
he lived and a statue of him, authored by by Allen Coulson as a gay and
lesbian historical project:
http://www.best.com/~timallen/
All the best,
--
Rictor Norton
mailto:norton@rictor.freeserve.co.uk
http://www.infopt.demon.co.uk/eighteen.htm
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From: "PETER BARTLETT" <Peter.Bartlett@nottingham.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 12:07:19 GMT0BST
Subject: Re: Inq. Canadian Stonewall
Michael asked:
> Does anyone know of a good secondary source which summarizes the events
> surrounding the bathhouse raids and subsequent riots in Toronto, 1981?
This depends how much depth you want. There is quite a good
full-length documentary from the mid-1980s called Track 2 (sadly, I
forget who produced it, so that may not be much help -- but I think
it had some National Film Board money in it, so it may be available
from them). Alternatively, for considerable detail, The Body Politic,
was a very good Toronto gay community newspaper of the period which
chronicled the events in considerable detail.
peter
The University of Nottingham
Department of Law
Nottingham
NG7 2RD
Tel: +44 (0) 115 951 5709
http://www.nottingham.ac.uk
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From: JNKATZ1@aol.com
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 10:39:15 EST
Subject: Re: Inq. Canadian Stonewall
On the Canadian Stonewall, ask the Canadian Gay Archives in Toronto. They
will be most helpful, I'm sure.
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From: "Rictor Norton" <norton@rictor.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Meiji Japan - Authority and homosexuality
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 09:20:48 -0000
A good source is _Partings At Dawn: An Anthology of Japanese Gay
Literature_, ed. Stephen D. Miller, San Francisco: Gay Sunshine Press, 1996.
It has some good historical material, not available elsewhere (in English).
--
Rictor Norton
mailto:norton@rictor.freeserve.co.uk
http://www.infopt.demon.co.uk/rcnorton.htm
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From: Mal123nash@aol.com
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 12:58:12 EST
Subject: Re: Ulrichs in The Advocate
Dear List Members,
I hope it may be of interest that the webpage created by Paul Nash and me
on Karl Heinrich Ulrichs is featured in the December 21 issue of The Advocate
(Digital Queeries).
The Advocate writer says: "Hot Web Site: Whether you've heard of Karl
Heinrich Ulrichs or not, this is a site for you. Created in anticipation of
the 175th anniversary next year of Ulrichs's birth, this page gives details
about the man said to be the first out-and-proud gay activist, including his
writings, his passions, and his coining the word uranism to describe
homosexuality." See p. 20 in the print version;
http://www.advocate.com/html/queeries/queeries.html in the electronic (web)
version.
Between you and me, I wouldn't be so excited about the feature except
that Paul and I have been trying for decades to have an editor at The Advocate
take up Ulrichs.
FYI:
<A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/fl3/celebration2000/">CELEBRATION 2000:
Karl Heinrich Ulrichs: 175 Years of Pride</A>
<A HREF="http://www.advocate.com/html/queeries/queeries.html">DIGITAL
QUEERIES</A>
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From: ddh@arts.gla.ac.uk
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 13:03:20 +0000
Subject: Re: Inq. Canadian Stonewall
Another source on the 1981 Toronto bath raids would be found in the collection
of journalism from The Body Politic, by Ed Jackson, ed. Flaunting It!
(Vancouver, ca. 1982?). There is an extended series of reports on the bath
raids neatly summarising the arcana of police provocations, lost revenue for
bath-owners, fury of the Toronto community, storming of the Ontario Parliament
bldgs, "No More Shit!" badges, etc. A heady moment!
Dan Healey
Wellcome Unit for the History of Medicine
School of History and Archaeology
University of Glasgow
5 University Gardens
Glasgow G12 8QQ
Tel. (0141) 330-5553
Fax (0141) 330-3511
ddh@arts.gla.ac.uk
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Subject: Re: Inq. Canadian Stonewall
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 14:58:15 -0600
From: "Michael J. Murphy" <mjmurphy@artsci.wustl.edu>
I just want to thank everyone for their suggestions on sources about the
"Canadian Stonewall"!! They've been very useful.
Best,
Michael J. Murphy, M.A.
Graduate Student, Dept. of Art History and Archaeology
Washington University, St. Louis
mjmurphy@artsci.wustl.edu
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Any victim of queer-bashing will describe how the bashers came in a group
and were all armed with baseball bats or knives--straight men have
*enormous* respect for the homosexual male. --Mark Simpson
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From: "[name removed by request]" XXX@XXXXX;
Subject: Introduction
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 18:39:23 -0000
Hi my name is [removed by request] and I am new to this list. I believe I am
supposed to submit a brief introduction.
I am currently working in the field of mental health as a part time
information worker and part time home support worker. I hold some academic
qualifications in humanities, womens studies and teaching adults.
My interest is in the fluidity of identity. I wrote my masters dissertation
on how white women read Black women's writing. I identify as Bisexual and I
hope to develop ideas around Bisexuality that I could shape into a phd
thesis.
I am interested in the construction of Bisexuality in relation to gay
identities and how we as humans are often limited to polarised choices of
identity (hetro/homo sexual...wo/man) - Even to identify as Bisexual is
limiting in terms of fluid identity. I am involved with a "Lesbian,
Bisexual, Curious and Questioning" women's group and am interested in the
group dynamics around identity - who can feel they belong, who feels
excluded and not worthy of full participation in the group. I constantly
"struggle" with my sexual identity.
I really believe that in centuries to come our off-spring will look back on
this time and say, "Yeah, those were the days when humans tried to explains
themselves and their relationships to each other in terms of this concept
called gender...."
I am looking forward to interesting and lively debates.
Yours,
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From: "Zoetanya Sujon" <zsujon@hotmail.com>
Subject: Call for Papers
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 02:58:47 GMT
Hi Everybody,
I thought that [name removed]'s research interests sounded very interesting (along
with so many of the people on this list), and her ideas on the 'fluidity of
identity' sparked this message. I hope you all find it of interest.
I'm currently the editorial assistant for a small journal called 'Space and
Culture' and I thought that maybe some of you would be interested in
contributing to one of our upcoming issues entitled 'Assemblages'. The
guest editors are particularly interested in Deleuzean perspectives. And
although this call for papers doesn't come right out and say anything about
sexuality, I think that issues concerning sexual identity, orientation and
meetings are of particular relevance to this call.
Also, please let me know if you are interested in receiving similar calls
for papers (there are many to choose from)? And if anyone is interested in
subscribing (or getting their libraries to subscribe) we could really use
the support!
All the best,
Zoe
Call for Papers: Space and Culture - the journal
Issue 7: Assemblages
Extended Deadline for Submission: March 1st, 2000
We are interested in thinking about those movements/moments of outside
belonging' (Probyn)that presumably co-exist with the segmentary spaces that
divide modern or colonial society -- its formalized institutions, the
hierarchy of specialists, domains of super-vision and spheres of
observation/testing/competence that work to capture, control, or manage the
flux of everyday life along with the supposed structure of inter-dependent
individualities or the state of generalized dependency that exist only for
the organically minded. We are thinking about assemblages, those diffuse,
unstable multiplicities and heterogeneous ensembles (neither
multiple/divisible, nor one/indivisible) that live on the margins of the
framework, in the openings between the offices, the structures and binary
divisions of modernity, and constitute the connective micro-tissues between
organized sites. Here, we may think about those encounters with 'strangers,'
those non-hierarchical, unauthorized (or even anti-authoritarian) moments of
sociable contact, those fluid, irregular and unstable mixtures, 'forms of
togetherness' (Bauman) or forms of sociation (Simmel), that may hinge on
sentimentality but are nevertheless defined by their particular style.
Our primary concern is the consistency of these qualitative mixtures. How
are these marginal, deterritorialized encounters or 'nomadic' life-styles
(Braidotti) formed and held together? Are they formed on the basis of a
resistence to landscape, architecture, to authority or organization, that
is, to all those bounded and binding structures? Is their primary aim to
resist organization, to ward off hierarchy, identity, or settled ways? Is
there a micro-politics at work in the assemblage? Do they have an economy
(as in Lyotard's libidinal economy) that resides outside the sphere of
commodification, comprising non-formalized exchanges (of bodies,
gift-giving, story-telling) and following other circuits? What of their
sites? Do these rhizomatic meetings (or mis-meetings?) have some form of
totem or logo, that is, something akin to a collective representation or
sacred site around which they co-mingle, a water-cooler equivalent perhaps,
or something less permanent, fixed, or identifiable? Is the carnivalization
of the festival (like those unruly bodies that
disorganize the soccer match) a characteristic of assemblage? Do they follow
signs and codes (laws), collect them, or produce them (semiosis vs.
semiotics)? Can assemblages join or mix with other assemblages (forming
inter-assemblages, underground networks, 'interlocking economies' [Grosz])?
Is there a possibility of a macro-politics? In short, we want to know how to
constitute, for ourselves, one of these assemblages, and what would be the
social and political risks of doing
so.
--
Zoe Sujon - Editorial Assistant
Space and Culture - the journal
Box 797, Station B
Ottawa K1P 1P8 Canada
http://www.carleton.ca/space
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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 19:34:06 +1100
From: Hera Cook <hera.cook@history.usyd.edu.au>
Subject: Plummer and interactionism
Hi,
I have been reading Kenneth Plummer's 'Sexual Stigma: an
interactionist account' (1975) - I wondered if anyone could recommend a
more recent engagment with interactionism as an approach to sexuality?
There is an article in the Journal of Sex Research (Symbolic
Interactionism and the study of sexuality, Monica Longmore, Feb, 1998,
p44) but the author only describes the various approaches in this area
rather than critiquing them or attempting to apply them.
Thanks,
Hera
--
Hera Cook
History Department
MacCallum Building A17
University of Sydney
NSW 2006
Australia
Phone 61 2 9351 2862, Fax 61 2 9351 3918
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From: "Lesley Hall" <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Plummer and interactionism
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 12:37:39 -0000
Plummer's more recent theoretical work is _Telling Sexual Stories_ (?1997 or
so), and was clearly influential on McLaren's recent _Twentieth-Century
Sexuality_.
Jeff Weeks discusses the earlier _Sexual Stigma_ in _Sexuality and its
Discontents_ and _Against Nature_.
The 3 volumes which emerged from the 1994 British Sociology Association
conference on 'Sexualities in Social Context' might also be a good place to
look: they are:
V Adkins and V Merchant _Sexualising the Social: Power and the organisation
of sexuality_
J Holland and L Adkins _Sex, Sensibility and the Gendered Body_
J Weeks and J Holland _Sexual Cultures_
All Macmillan: British Sociological Association: Explorations in Sociology
(nos 46-48), 1996
Lesley
Lesley Hall
lesleyah@primex.co.uk
website http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah