HISTSEX ARCHIVES: AUGUST 1999

© Lesley Hall and list contributors




Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 13:59:05 +1000

From: Hera Cook <hera.cook@history.usyd.edu.au>

Subject: [Fwd: [Fwd: Maines' Martyrdom and Vibratory Censorship]]

Hi,

I think lesley's comments about physiotherapists are probably spot on. Here

are some more

thoughts I had - unfortunately I don't have the book to hand and these more

specific

questions would be better being checked against the actual text -

Carol Thomas comments on 'Maine's evident scholarship'. I think her use of

sources raises useful questions for historians of sexual behaviours.

Ultimately it was not clear to me what claims Maine was making about the

prevalance of this practice. She appeared to be claiming that this behaviour was

relatively frequent, based primarily upon the level of advertising of the

machines. Is this a valid basis for such claims?

Maine shifts from analysis of texts - discourse - at an international level to

specific material culture. These different types of evidence provide varying

levels and types of proof - indeed they bear different relationships to the

notion of proof.

It is proved to the reader that the objects, vibrators, existed and were

advertised. The proof of the behaviour, that is that these machines were used as

Maine claims, is from other sources but she doesn't distinguish between the nature

of her proofs.

This issue is absolutely central to the credibility of the book as far as I am

concerned. Maine appears to claim that use of vibrators by doctors to give

hysterical middle-class women clitoral orgasms was common practice in the late

19th and early 20th century. She failed to convince me that this was correct, but

she

did convince me that some - a few doctors - did this. So, if that is all she is

claiming

then that is fine and it is an interesting small addition to the history of 19th

century sexuality.

Next point, Maine writes about hysteria but in many of the arenas/sites she

describes the

patients often would not have been seriously disturbed if at all.

Middle class women were reluctant to allow doctors to examine them when they were

pregnant - I believe that this applied to removing clothes and not just to

internal examinations - however I have done very little work on the 19th century

and perhaps

someone else might like to comment on this. If this is correct would women who

were not seriously disturbed have been likely to agree to genital contact in

Maine's circumstances?

On this note, unless this is acknowledged to be the practice of a tiny radical

minority of doctors - my belief - then I would disregard Freud's experience as he

was hardly typical of his era in his approach to sex....

Last point, hands up all those women who think vibrators and orgasms go together

like a horse and carriage? This is the great unexamined assumption of Maine's book.

Do vibrators provide women with orgasms in the clockwork fashion assumed?

All the best,

Hera



Lesley Hall wrote:

> Histsex:For historians of sexuality - http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah

>> Damn! I've been away for most of this, in which I'm extremely interested

> since I've been asked several times to comment on Maines's work (or at

> least, the media representations of same) and have only just got hold of the

> book itself to read (though I've not yet done so). I concur that it sounds

> to be generalising from a tiny and probably fringe phenomenon (do the words

> Isaac Baker Brown raise a resonant echo???), and (as far as I can tell)

> ignores the rise of what in the UK we call physiotherapy, which became an

> organised profession in the 1890s as the Chartered Society of Medical

> Masseuses following the great Massage Parlour Scandal (clandestine brothels

> pretending to be therapeutic, plus ca change), initially told in the columns

> of the British Medical Journal. This indicates that a) if doctors

> recommended hands-on physical treatment they were delegating it to trained

> masseuses/masseurs, who were anxious to indicate their respectability and b)

> even non-executive relief type massage was regarded with not a little

> dubeity. Plus, c) by the early C20th physios were using a wide variety of

> electrically driven devices, going by ads in their journal.

> So there may be a whole other story about medicine and touch and

> electrical devices going on which is missing from Maines' book.

> The 'censorship' line does sound a little dubious (was the contentious

> nature of her research the whole story?) even if it does fit into Brit

> perceptions of US institutions.

> I'll try and post further when I've read the book, but I have GOT to

> finish vol one of Trumbach's magnum opus on sex and gender in C18th London

> for a review first.

> Lesley

> Lesley Hall

> lesleyah@primex.co.uk

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Kazetnik@aol.com <Kazetnik@aol.com>

> To: histsex@listbot.com <histsex@listbot.com>

> Date: 27 July 1999 12:45

> Subject: Maines' Martyrdom

>> >Histsex:For historians of sexuality -

> http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah

> >> >I am sorry for Maines that she lost her teaching position because of her

> >research, but my guess is such consequences are rare for those of us

> working

> >in this field. I do indeed find the assertions of her work dubious (though

> >not necessarily incredible since I can still be surprised by some of the

> >'oddities' of belief and practice in the 19th century), but it is

> interesting

> >that her work is seen as frivolous. I wonder why that should be? Are

> >vibrators funny per se? Or only 19th century ones?

> >> >Chris White

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From: Kazetnik@aol.com

Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 05:18:36 EDT

Subject: Gynaecological exams & orgasms

Hi

To pursue Hera Cook's point about middle-class women's reluctance to be

examined by doctors, Havelock Ellis provides a slightly peculiar insight

based on his own clinical practice with working-class women in 'The Evolution

of Modesty':

'Long ago, when a hospital student on midwifery duty in London slums, I had

occasion to observe that among the women of the poor, and more especially in

those that had lost the first bloom of youth, modesty consisted chiefly in

the fear of being disgusting....As soon as the woman realized that I found

nothing disgusting in whatever was proper and necessary to be done under the

circumstances, it almost invariably happened that every sign of modesty at

once disappeared.'

He seems to regard working class women's modesty as superficial, easily

discarded, and by implication, middle class women's modesty a much more

developed element of their identities, evidently playing on notions of

greater or lesser 'civilization'. It is less clear what he means by

'disgusting', but there is possibly some shadow of the sense of the vagina

being an 'unhealed wound' that must not be displayed, in which case it seems

unlikely that women would have joyfully allowed genital contact of an

explicitly sexual nature, as opposed to one reminiscent of sexual contact.

'Hands up all those women who think vibrators and orgasms go together like a

horse and carriage.' <hand firmly lowered> Such a bizarre notion, a conveyor

belt idea of turning out a whole series of identical products. Maine seems

not to have thought about this *at all*, yet surely it would be fundamental

to her cultural analysis to think through the competing meanings of

'pleasure' mechanically applied and DIY pleasure. Do we really think our

predecessors were so stupid and/or literal minded that because masturbation

was taboo, they would not have done it? One of the principal assumptions of

pornographic material from the period is that women were (a) in constant need

of sexual pleasure and (b) very capable of providing their own once

introduced to the concept. Fantasy obviously, but some story about female

sexual pleasure in the 'real' is being narrated here.

Regards

Chris White



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From: "Lesley Hall" <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>

Subject: Re: Maines' Martyrdom and Vibratory Censorship

Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 12:48:37 +0100

I've now had at least a superficial glance at the book.

I suspect, from the authorities Maines cites on the history of hysteria,

that all she says about this will be shot down in flames by Helen King's

recent, highly praised, _Hippocrates' Women_. Unlike most people who have

written on this subject, King is is a highly competent classical scholar who

has gone back to the Greek and Latin texts and has deconstructed the

accepted historiographical analysis of the alleged Hippocratic origins of

what was defined in the C19th as hysteria. While King's book only came out

this year, articles by her in this area have been available for some time.

I also feel that although Maines mentions other aspects of

electrotherapy (galvanic belts and corsets etc) she has paid insufficient

attention to the claims that were being made for these devices in

advertisements, which were very similar to those she cites for vibrators -

e.g. restoring joy of life, purifying blood etc - and similar claims were

made for a variety of 'quack' remedies and devices. As galvanic belts, etc,

did nothing at all (except via suggestion and belief in the almost magical

powers of 'electricity'), I think it may be over-interpreting the claims

made for vibrators to assume a mutually understood sexual subtext to the

ways they were being promoted.

On women and masturbation: presumably some women did discover this and

as it was such an unnamed and taboo topic (unlike male 'self-abuse') there

was little condemnatory discourse they might have encountered - they might

not even have defined it as 'sexual' in an era when 'the sexual' for women

revolved around penetrative intercourse with men. I was struck, when going

through the 1000s of letters to Marie Stopes, how little masturbation was an

issue for women, whereas it recurred frequently as a source of concern in

letters from men (cf my article 'Forbidden by God, despised by men', in Jnl

Hist Sexuality, reprinted in Fout, _Forbidden History_). Stopes even

suggested (though only in private correspondence, not in print!) that for

the mature unmarried woman it was ('in moderation') a permissible form of

relief (particularly in conjunction with the glandular remedies Stopes was

also keen on).

Stella Browne certainly believed that masturbation in women was more

common than might be supposed (views put forward in _The Freewoman_ chastity

debates, 1912), though she did not pathologise the practice (in fact was pro

it).

Even modern surveys (for what they're worth) indicate that while nearly

100% of men have masturbated at one time or another (if not habitually), far

fewer women have, and they tend to start the practice later in life than men

(who normally begin in adolescence) - possibly after their sexual desires

have been aroused by external factors, rather than coming as a spontaneous

response to adolescent erections. So whether women would automatically think

of vibratory massagers as aids to masturbation is questionable, especially

in an era when the desirability of orgasms for all was not being thrust at

them from all sides.

As for the vibrator being the 'magic wand' for all women, I'm dubious of

any statement which contains the words 'all women' (as Stella B commented,

'I have never met the normal woman'). Some women, after all, do have orgasms

from penetrative sex, even if this is far from universal. Some women have

nocturnal orgasms without any stimulation. Some women start masturbating to

orgasm from early childhood and others don't have any orgasms until their

fourth or fifth decade.

Maines largely appears to ignore the Stopes and after tradition of

female authored sex manuals critiquing the phallocentric model of

intercourse - while this was perhaps a more UK than US phenomenon (Stopes,

Hutton, Wright, Malleson, etc were all British) these books did appear in US

editions and are mentioned in Brecher's book on the sex researchers.

Thanks, Hera, for opening this discussion.

Lesley

Lesley Hall

lesleyah@primex.co.uk



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From: "Lesley Hall" <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>

Subject: Research interests register

Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 18:46:23 +0100

Some while ago I mooted this and while the response was on the whole =

positive, pressure of other things meant I had to put it on the =

backburner for a while.

I have now given some thought to the possibilities, in particular =

the question of searchability (which was raised as a potential problem), =

and although my webmastering skills are not up to creating an actual =

database on my website, I have put a search engine on the page for =

searching by keyword terms.

The under-development page is on my website at =

http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah/hofsresr.htm

though so far I haven't put in any entries (even though some people sent =

me information at the time of the original posting). Any suggestions =

about what should be mentioned there will be welcomed.

If people are interested in putting their information on this =

register, please could they let me have (at my private e-mail address =

lesleyah@primex.co.uk,rather than on-list), the following details:

name, institutional affiliation (if any), e-mail address (and other =

contact details if you want), personal website info if applicable, and =

details of your research, using, as far as possible, terms which other =

individuals are likely to use for search purposes - i.e. indicate not =

merely that you are interested in e.g. prostitution or pornography, but =

the region/country, and the period (general/precise).

There may be some minor delays in getting the information onto the =

site, as I would prefer to reindex the site when I have a reasonable =

batch of entries rather than in driblets of one or two at a time.

Lesley Hall

lesleyah@primex.co.uk

histsex-owner@listbot.com



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From: "Chris Willis" <chris@chriswillis.freeserve.co.uk>

Subject: Maines' martyrdom

Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 12:32:20 +0100

Hi!

Thre's an article about Rachel Maines in today's "Independent on Sunday"

which explains a lot about why her research was considered dodgy. It

includes illustrations of some of the things she insists are vibrators -

some of which quite clearly aren't! She seems to think that any appliance

which has the word "vibrate" or "massage" in its name or instructions must

be a vibrator, even if it's something like a neck and scalp massager. One

of the devices illustrated looks like a 1940s equivalent of the "Tens"

machine which is used to treat people with incurable back and neck

problems - in other words, exactly what the advertisements say it is.

It's a shame that she's insistent on pushing her arguemnts too far. Her

basic argument may well be correct, but it looks as if she's determined to

twist facts in order to produce as much extra "evidence" as possible to back

up her thesis. I find this mildly offensive to all the disabled people who

need the kind of devices she insists are purely sexual (eg RSI sufferers

whose symptoms can be alleviated by neck massage). A deaf friend of mine,

who obviously can't hear a conventional alarm clock, has a device with

vibrates under his pillow instead - I dread to think what Maines would make

of that! :-)

All the best

Chris

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Chris Willis

English Dept

Birkbeck College

Malet Street

London WC1E 7HX

Chris@chriswillis.freeserve.co.uk

http://www.chriswillis.freeserve.co.uk/

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From: "Chris Willis" <chris@chriswillis.freeserve.co.uk>

Subject: Maines - PS

Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 12:39:05 +0100

Hi!

Forgot to say in my last msg - the Independent on Sunday is on-line at

http://www.independent.co.uk/

ATB

Chris

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Chris Willis

English Dept

Birkbeck College

Malet Street

London WC1E 7HX

Chris@chriswillis.freeserve.co.uk

http://www.chriswillis.freeserve.co.uk/

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Date: 15 Aug 1999 19:47:39 -0000

From: "Histsex:For historians of sexuality" <histsex-owner@listbot.com>

Subject: New members/Introductions/Research Interests register





A number of new subscribers have recently joined. I invite them (and

anyone else who has not yet done so) to post a message to the list

introducing themselves and their particular interests. And of course,

don't wait for someone else to start a discussion - jump in with your own

queries, points, information, etc.

I'll remind everyone that I'm setting up a Research Interests Register:

the basic layout of this under development site can be observed at

http://homepages/primex.co.uk/~lesleyah/hofsresr.htm

Let me know by e-mail any information which you would like posted.

Lesley

histsex-owner@listbot.com

lesleyah@primex.co.uk



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From: Kazetnik@aol.com

Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 18:01:13 EDT

Subject: Re: Maines - PS

Hi

Thanks to Chris Willis for the note re the Maines review. But it's

frustrating when only part of a paper is on-line....! The more I hear about

this 'project' of hers, the more disquieted I become. Why has she produced

such shoddy scholarship? Is it the publish-or-be-unemployed scenario? Or is

it somehow related to a caricature of the work of historians of sexuality, a

kind of post-Freud, everything is about sex if you only look properly? It is

tiresome that the objects of our study are regarded by some as trivial,

inappropriate, not serious. It is hopeless if the specificity of the field of

study is annihilated by 'scholars' who insist on producing arguments of such

dubious veracity in the name of writing the history of sexuality. Am I just

being paranoid, or is she doing all of us a disservice?

Chris White



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Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 23:25:46 +0100

To: "Histsex:For historians of sexuality" <histsex@listbot.com>

From: Ianthe <ianthe@duende.demon.co.uk>

In message <5a98a727.24e892a9@aol.com>, Kazetnik@aol.com writes

>Histsex:For historians of sexuality - http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah

>>Hi

>>Thanks to Chris Willis for the note re the Maines review. But it's

>frustrating when only part of a paper is on-line....! The more I hear about

>this 'project' of hers, the more disquieted I become. Why has she produced

>such shoddy scholarship?

'Allegedly' ;-) There was an interesting long illustrated

article in Wired on this (her work, not the unsubstantiated

notion that her work might be sub-standard). As most

old Wired articles are online, go check www.wired.com

--

Ianthe Duende



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Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 20:37:35 -0700

From: Heather Lee Miller <miller.1438@osu.edu>

Subject: Re: New members/Introductions/Research Interests register

Hi,

Well, I guess I'll take this opportunity to introduce myself! I am a PhD

candidate in history at the Ohio State University (USA) and a managing

editor on the Journal of Women's History. I am working on a dissertation

about the connections between prostitution and lesbianism in sexology and

practice (among sex workers) in the US between 1840 and 1940.

Simultaneously the broadest and the narrowest topic possible! I look

forward to hearing from everyone else!

Best,

Heather Lee Miller

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Heather Lee Miller

Ph.D. candidate

Ohio State University

miller.1438@osu.edu

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"In my young days, I used to pick up sluts, and I don't mean that nastily.

It's more a term of endearment, really, for girls who know how to speak

their minds."

- Kevin Costner



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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 11:07:53 -0500 (CDT)

From: Sarah Elizabeth Hodges <sehodges@midway.uchicago.edu>

Subject: Re: New members/Introductions/Research Interests register

I too have been lurking this summer. My name is Sarah Hodges and I am a

PhD student in History at the University of Chicago -- although I have

been living in London since spring 98 and look to be signed up for

another 5 years or so.

I began writing a disseration on the history of birth control in India,

but am now just finishing up under the working title: "Modern Families,

Married Love: Towards a History of the 'Small Family Norm' in

20th-Century India." The point of the thesis is to figure out how 'small

family' came to be equated with 'modern family' in India. In order to do

this, I investigate a number of social movements and institutions in

India in the

1920s and 1930s: the non-Brahmin movement in south India, liberal social

reformers, erotic entrepreneurs (aka patent medicine firms and

sex manual publishers), Indian eugenicists and finally, birth cotnrol

advocates. As such, the first half of the thesis sets up how the

conjugal couple was promoted as the new kernel around which modern family

life was to be built, and the second half of the thesis explores how this

couple's 'correct reproduction' was arbitrated.

I would be especially interested if people know of work in places besides

India which deal with this-- I just found a copy of John Gillis' _A World

of their Own Making: Myth, Ritual and the Quest for Family Values_ but I

think that this must eb the tip of the iceberg-- that is, looking at

relations between and among family, normativity and sexuality as part and

parcel of 'modernization' etc.

Also-- a little plug-- I am co-organzing with David Arnold a conference

which will take place in London 18-19 November 1999 on 'Population,

Reproduction, and Birth Control in Late Colonial India' -- it will be

held at the Centre for the Culture and History of Medicine at the School

of Oriental and African Studies, University of London. If there is

interest, I would be happy to post the tentative list of papers and our

preliminary statement.

At least one of the presenters I think is on this list-- perhaps you have

already introduced yourself? There are a lot of younger scholars who are

doing extremely innovative work on the history of sexuality and

reproduction in India and the point of the conference is to have everyone

meet finally in one place but also to showcase how great their work is.

The conference is open to any and all who wish to come.

Finally: to the person who is working on Maud Allen-- a good friend has

great material on her scandalous (and ultimately cancelled) performance

in Madras-- let me know if you would like his email.

Sarah



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From: "Donna Larsen" <ladydonna85@hotmail.com>

Subject: Re: New members/Introductions/Research Interests register

Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 09:45:11 PDT

I am a 35 year old returning student. At the moment I am working on my

transferrer degree at Seattle Central community college. I plan to obtain

my PH.D in Psychology and then specialize in education and research in the

field of human sexuality. I have joined this list mainly to learn.

I am also a lesbian leather woman. I have been a member of the Seattle

Leather community for about 9 years now. I have been a professional

Dominatrix. I did that for about 8 years and just recently decided to take

a breather from that for a while. I am also a pagan whose sexuality and

spirituality are very much connected.

My wife Stephanie and I are in a Polyamoury relationship. This works

extremely well for us. So that is Me in nutshell. I have been very much

enjoying the information and conversations so far.

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From: "Lesley Hall" <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>

Subject: Re: Maines - PS

Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:50:21 +0100

> Why has she produced

>such shoddy scholarship? Is it the publish-or-be-unemployed scenario?

I think this may relate to the demand, even by some academic presses, that

new monographs should be marketable to a wide and non-specialist audience.

Obviously to do that it's no good saying you have an interesting small

sidelight on some marginal eccentricities of Victorian sexual culture, you

have to have a startling new thesis which will overturn accepted etc etc

etc.

I note that there is a website 'Good Vibrations' (which I don't offhand

have the URL for which includes a 'Virtual Museum of the History of the

Vibrator' - which seems rather reminiscent of Maines's book though I

couldn't find it cited anywhere. (GV started as a women-friendly business

selling vibrators in I think the 1970s).

Lesley Hall

lesleyah@primex.co.uk



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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 21:48:26 +0100

From: Ianthe <ianthe@duende.demon.co.uk>

Subject: Maines - PS

In message <00d701bee818$58da1920$912f70c3@default>, Lesley Hall

<lesleyah@primex.co.uk> writes

>Histsex:For historians of sexuality - http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah

>>> Why has she produced

>>such shoddy scholarship? Is it the publish-or-be-unemployed scenario?

>>I think this may relate to the demand, even by some academic presses, that

>new monographs should be marketable to a wide and non-specialist audience.

In her case it was publish and be _un_-employed. This

Carnegie-Mellon Phd spent 20 years researching and

writing _The Technology of the Orgasm_ (Dec 1998, John

Hopkins UP) and for her pains was apparently (according

to Wired) promptly sacked from the faculty of Clarkson

U, on publication. Luckily it seems she has a research

and curatorship business to fall back on.

_Web links_:

* Amazon.com, with comments:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0801859417/o/qid=934835232/sr=

8-1/002-1370467-1434652 (place all on one line, press 'enter')

* John Hopkins University Press page for the book:

http://www.press.jhu.edu/press/books/titles/f98/f98mate.htm

* The full-text of Chapter 1 (uncorrected proof):

http://128.220.50.88/press/books/titles/sampler/maines.htm

_Some Web reviews_:

* Salon:

http://ww1.salonmagazine.com/urge/feature/1999/02/cov_25feature.html

* CyberSociology:

http://www.socio.demon.co.uk/magazine/5/5orgasm.html

* New York Times:

http://bettydodson.com/org-tech.htm

* LA Weekly:

http://www.laweekly.com/ink/99/03/wls-mithers.shtml



--

Ianthe Duende



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From: HayGirl99@aol.com

Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 16:59:31 EDT

Subject: Re: New members/Introductions/Research Interests register

Hi,

I joined the list a couple of months ago....I'm not a college student or

a professor or a writer.....I'm a 15 year old high school student from South

Carolina. I've been interested in the history of women and human

sexuality--mainly the the history of women's sexuality. I'd like to research

these topics in depth. I searched the web for sites on them and came across

an advertisement for this list--so I joined.

Anyway, you won't hear much from me. I'm just here to learn from ya'll

and expand my own knowledge on the subjects. Hopefully, soon I'll be able to

put my two cents in. I've really enjoyed it so far!

Thanks

~Hailey



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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:40:07 -0700

From: chris dummitt <cdummitt@sfu.ca>

Subject: maines and intro

Fellow Subscribers,

An anecdote to the Maines discussion: The book, _The Road to Welville_

(1993), by novelist T. Coraghessan Boyle, includes a scenario in which a

doctor (of dubious reputation) manipulates the "wombs" of various women.

Boyle uses the scenario to poke fun at the distinctions made between the

serious science allegedly performed at John Harvey Kellog's sanitarium

(through which the reader has already seen people die) and that type of

science deemed quakery (through which the female characters' conditions

seem to be improving). Now, Boyle is a satirist and his intention is to

poke fun at both types of science but he may have a point. Surely, we can

learn from Maines (without accepting her whole thesis) that the distinction

between legitimate and illegitimate was a fuzzy business in the late

nineteenth century (on this, see Keith Walden's superb _Becoming Modern in

Toronto_ (1997))

I'm not sure of Boyle's historical sources but in this and his other works,

I have found him to evoke historical context better than (alas) many

historians. For example, his _Riven Rock_ is the perfect novel companion

to Gail Bederman's _Manliness and Civilization_.

An introduction: I am a doctoral candidate at Simon Fraser University in

British Columbia. My dissertation is a cultural history of men and

violence in post-WWII Vancouver - looking at the cultural definitions and

responses to different types of violence. I have also done work on

masculine domesticity in the 1950s including an article on the origins of

men's suburban barbecuing in Canada.

chris dummitt



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Chris Dummitt

Doctoral Candidate

Department of History

Simon Fraser University

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___________________________________________________________________ From: "Matthew Johnson" <trekdrop78@hotmail.com>

Subject: Re: New members/Introductions/Research Interests register

Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:26:04 PDT

hello,

for what it's worth (I think I may have inadvertantly introduced myself to

the list in a message to Lesley Hall a few weeks back), my name is Matthew

Johnson and I joined the list in may. I will be receiving my BA from New

York Univ in December 99 (in German and European Studies). Partly in spite

of, partly because of my majors, virtually all of the independent research

and writing I have carried out as an undergrad has dealt with issues of

history and sexuality. A great deal of this has focused on the Weimar

Republic: I have carried out research on the german youth movement among the

working-class, the 'decadence' and 'perversions' of Weimar's cabaret culture

and how they related (or did not relate) to the republic's eventual

downfall, the history of the early homosexual liberation movement, and

(currently) the subcultures of the human body in the republic and the nazi

period (esp. nudism and how this related to homoeroticism).

in addition, I am completing a BA thesis begun as a class project for a

course taught by gert hekma at the university of amsterdam. the thesis is

on the prevention of hiv/std's among dutch gay men in the netherlands.

i am in the process of applying for graduate programs, with a PhD in history

as an eventual goal.

again, hello to all. I may not be very talkative, but am here and listening

(that sounds kinda creepy, sorry...)

-- Matt Johnson



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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:34:44 -0700

From: Marthe Arends <mnarends@earthlink.net>

Subject: Yet another Intro

Boy, do I feel like an uneducated boob what with everyone's academic

credentials flying hither and yon. I'm not in academia, I'm a writer,

focusing primarily on historical novels in the mid to late

Victorian/early Edwardian eras. While I do not include overt sexual

issues, I plan to touch on one or two (particularly birth control around

the turn of the century) in future books, and am prone to researching

the pants (ha! sorry, bad pun) off of subjects, hence my enjoyment of

this list.

Back into lurk mode...

Marthe

http://home.earthlink.net/~mnarends



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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:42:05 +1000

From: Hera Cook <dcoo8738@mail.usyd.edu.au>

Subject: Re: Maines



Ianthe wrote,

In her case it was publish and be _un_-employed. This

Carnegie-Mellon Phd spent 20 years researching and

writing _The Technology of the Orgasm_ (Dec 1998, John

Hopkins UP) and for her pains was apparently (according

to Wired) promptly sacked from the faculty of Clarkson

U, on publication. Luckily it seems she has a research

and curatorship business to fall back on.

Hera replies

I am a bit lost here. I read that she had trouble in the 1980s. I would be

astonished if it was correct that she was sacked from Clarkson U for a book

published by John Hopkins U press in 1999.

As the person who introduced this topic and many of the criticisms of Maine's

work. I would like to comment that I wouldn't have used the word shoddy about her

research. It is evident from her introduction that Maine started her work with

certain preconceptions - but she is hardly alone in that. I am resistant to her

and her publicists' construction of her as matyred to the heroic cause of truth

about vibrators. However one of the problems with being attacked from outside in

an unreasonable basis, as it appears she was on one occasion in the 80s, is that

it tends to diminish people's capacity for re-analysis and skeptism towards their

own work.

So she probably never went back and examined her own fundamental assumptions nor

had the time to look at the medical context in which, as Leslie pointed out, the

vibrators were used quite differently. However she has done a great deal of

research in the areas she thought were relevant. It is not shoddy it is just wrong

and publicised in a way that emphasises that.

Hera

___________________________________________________________________

From: "Lisa Cardyn" <lcardyn@email.msn.com>

Subject: Re: New members/Introductions/Research Interests register

Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 01:42:09 -0400

Hi there--

I've been lurking on the list with great interest for a while now and

thought I'd take a moment to introduce myself. I'm a PhD student in

American Studies at Yale working on a dissertation that looks at the

evolution of legal, medical, and psychological conceptions of sexual trauma

in American culture from the postbellum period through the mid-20th century.

In addition to the theoretical chapters that focus most directly on

practical and discursive developments within the professions, I'm also

integrating a select number of historical episodes that serve as case

studies for observing how sexual trauma was represented within the larger

culture (e.g., the use of sexual terror by the Reconstruction-era klans).

I've really come to appreciate hearing what all of you are thinking and

writing about and look forward to participating in many interesting

discussions in the coming months.

Best wishes,

Lisa Cardyn

ABD, Yale University

JD, Yale Law School



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From: Kazetnik@aol.com

Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 08:50:53 EDT

Subject: Maines: terms of critique

Hi

Given that I was responsible for calling Maines' work shoddy, I would like to

withdraw the insult and apologise -- it was an overstatement, but one born of

(personal) irritation not so much with Maines, but rather with the climate in

which we UK academics seem doomed to work, in which quantity takes precedence

over quality. Not an original gripe, of course, but with the next RAE

looming, planning for the one after that is beginning to take control. Ugh!

Chris White



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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:14:48 +0100 (BST)

From: RM CLEMINSON <R.M.Cleminson@Bradford.ac.uk>

Subject: introduction

I am also relatively new to the list. My interests lie in the field of

Spanish eugenics and history of sexuality. Particularly, I have written

material on the Catalan anarchists' discourse on sexuality and eugenics in

the early twentieth century. I am also interested in critiques of newer

'gay gene' theories.





******************************

Dr.Richard M. Cleminson

Lecturer in Spanish Studies

Department of Modern Languages

University of Bradford

Bradford, West Yorkshire

BD7 1DP

tel: +1274 234595

fax: +1274 235590



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From: "Lesley Hall" <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>

Subject: The silly season? Sex and the ancient Greeks

Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:44:20 +0100



Seen yesterday in _The Guardian_ (and available for perusal in extenso at

www.newsunlimited.co.uk)

Book tells it straight about sex lives of ancient Greeks

Forget the philosophers - a new study debunks the popular view of

bedroom antics in the classical world, and it's selling by the stack

Helena Smith in Athens

Monday August 16, 1999

In ancient Greece, homosexuals were frowned upon, paedophiles were

punished and masturbation was seen as fit only for slaves. Even the

missionary position was out, according to a slim 88-page volume which has

become one of the hottest reads in Greece.

The book, Love, Sex and Marriage: A Guide to the Private Life of the

Ancient Greeks, has become a bestseller in modern Greece

I'd appreciate the opinion of any of the classicists on the list, but none

of this alleged radical revisionism seems to be saying anything remarkably

new? Apparently 'Mr Vrissimtzis, a sociologist, wrote the book after

studying classical texts, inscriptions and pottery in museums and libraries'

(but not, apparently, the plethora of scholarship relating to precisely this

subject!). The reason for the writing of the book and its success seem

rather confused: on the one hand 'in a country where "obscene" statues and

vases were stashed away in museum storerooms until the early 70s, the

revival has as much to do with revising perceptions of the past as anything

else', on the other 'several Greek historians... are bent on dismissing the

commonly held notion that their ancestors were liberal, free-for-all

revellers'.

This strikes me as another example of canny marketing (as with Maines's

book).

Lesley Hall

lesleyah@primex.co.uk



___________________________________________________________________

From: "Chris Willis" <chris@chriswillis.freeserve.co.uk>

Subject: Maines again

Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:53:37 +0100

Hi!

>> it's frustrating when only part of a paper is on-line....!

I agree! I'm also wondering whether the pictures the Independent used were

provided by Maines or added by the Independent themselves. (I used to be a

journalist and we quite often supplemented an article with whatever vaguely

relevant pics we could dig out of the library.) If the latter, they may not

be a fair reflection of her research.

I wonder if part of the reason for the hostility to her work is that some of

it could be construed as attacking the medical establishment? OK, so it was

a long time ago, but her allegations about male doctors sexually abusing

women under the pretence that it was medical treatment are very disturbing.

All the best

Chris

=========================================

Chris Willis

English Dept

Birkbeck College

Malet Street

London WC1E 7HX

Chris@chriswillis.freeserve.co.uk

http://www.chriswillis.freeserve.co.uk/

=========================================



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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:46:54 -0500

From: Marion <neko75@mindspring.com>

Subject: Re: New members/Introductions/Research Interests register

I guess I'll add my introduction to those of us who have been lurking for a

while. I am a first-year Ph.D. student in U.S. history at the University

of Southern California. I just graduated from Oklahoma State University,

where I developed my interest in the history of sexuality in the United

States. I have always been interested in women's studies, but I have

become very interested in concepts of masculinity (particularly related to

Asian American culture because my main area of study is in

Japanese-American history). I haven't really done any research in these

areas yet, but I have at least five years of Ph.D. work ahead of me during

which I can pursue my interests.



Marion Umeno

University of Southern California

first-year history Ph.D. student



___________________________________________________________________

From: along@crt.state.la.us (Alecia Long)

Subject: RE: The silly season? Sex and the ancient Greeks

Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:17:43 -0500



I, for one, have a been a little bothered by the assumption that seems to

be be embedded in some of the recent list postings about Maines book and

now about Vrissimmtzs' book.

The assumption that these two books are somehow without value or don't pass

muster because the authors make mistakes and/or fail to take into account

the work of the history of sexuality cannon smacks of the very same kind of

academic derision and elitism that folks in the history of sexuality

community have been fighting against in order to have their work taken

seriously.

I don't think it does a lot of good for us to canibalize each other just

because we can. Criticism is essential, but far too often that criticism

devolves into smug and smirky commentary. God knows trying to write a

dissertation, let alone a book, is the hardest thing I've ever done, and I

always try to remember that when I'm reviewing or critiquing the work of

others. I also try to remember that the most important and bravest things

a writer or scholar can ever do is have the stamina to finish something and

then the nerve to put it out there for public scrutiny.

My own work is on New Orleans. While the existing secondary works on

sexuality in my subject city fall far short of what I consider minimum

standards of professional scholarly research, they have been invaluable to

me -- both in terms of helping me generate questions and providing

invaluable research leads. I would go so far as to say that popular/buff

literature on sexuality (and I would place Vrissimtz' work in this category

but not Maines) does an invaluable service to more "serious" scholars

because it generates interest among the larger reading public.

I think lots of the criticism of Maines' book has been right on-target and

I don't think she's a martyr, but I take exception to the assertion that

her book is an exemplar of "quantity over quality" publishing.

More than enough said I suspect.

Alecia P. Long, Historian

Louisiana State Museum

___________________________________________________________________

Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:13:14 +1000

From: Hera Cook <dcoo8738@mail.usyd.edu.au>

Subject: Re: New members/Introductions/Research Interests register

Hi,

Other people may feel differently, but I would love you to post your

conference program. That seems to me to be one of the things this list should be

for - to let us all know what is happening in other areas of the history of

sexuality.

(Comment from Leslie, please!)

Regards,

Hera

Sarah Elizabeth Hodges wrote:

> [message snipped]

>> Also-- a little plug-- I am co-organzing with David Arnold a conference

> which will take place in London 18-19 November 1999 on 'Population,

> Reproduction, and Birth Control in Late Colonial India' -- it will be

> held at the Centre for the Culture and History of Medicine at the School

> of Oriental and African Studies, University of London. If there is

> interest, I would be happy to post the tentative list of papers and our

> preliminary statement.

>>> ___________________________________________________________________

Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:46:53 +1000

From: Hera Cook <dcoo8738@mail.usyd.edu.au>

Subject: Re: Masturbation in Ancient Greece and Maines

Hi,

As I remember the illustrations do come from the book. Also she is not

talking about doctors sexually abusing women.

She believes that these doctors and these women did not see clitoral sensations

as sexual - only vaginal penetration was sexual according to her. Therefore, she

argues, that both the doctors and the women saw doctors giving women clitoral

massage to orgasm as non-sexual relief of hysteria.

As I have said I seriously doubt that this practice was at all common, but where

(or if) it occurred in the ideological framework Maine presents, I would argue

very strongly that it is ahistorical to describe it as sexual abuse. The

experience of sexual abuse is culturally constructed and accordingly differs over

time and in different societies.

I think the reason for the hostility is that she has produced an argument which

is plausible and highly culturally acceptable right now - (read the articles

linked by Ianthe) so it is hard to dispute, even though it is not correct.

Does the Greek book come into the same category? It is obviously a culturally

acceptable idea in modern Greece but how is the evidence for very different

attitudes integrated into an argument for sexual conservatism?

I know little about sexuality in Ancient Greece. Is there anyone out there who

could comment on new scholarship on attitudes to masturbation, especially female

masturbation? And, of course, on attitudes to homosexuality.

(About 3-4 years ago I heard a radio 4 interview with a scholar fromWarwick

University talking about homosexuality in Ancient greece - it was so good I

remember it still - Are you out there by any chance?)

Hera





Chris Willis wrote:

> Histsex:For historians of sexuality - http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah

>> Hi!

>> >> it's frustrating when only part of a paper is on-line....!

>> I agree! I'm also wondering whether the pictures the Independent used were

> provided by Maines or added by the Independent themselves. (I used to be a

> journalist and we quite often supplemented an article with whatever vaguely

> relevant pics we could dig out of the library.) If the latter, they may not

> be a fair reflection of her research.

>> I wonder if part of the reason for the hostility to her work is that some of

> it could be construed as attacking the medical establishment? OK, so it was

> a long time ago, but her allegations about male doctors sexually abusing

> women under the pretence that it was medical treatment are very disturbing.

>> All the best

> Chris

>> =========================================

> Chris Willis

> English Dept

> Birkbeck College

> Malet Street

> London WC1E 7HX

>> Chris@chriswillis.freeserve.co.uk

> http://www.chriswillis.freeserve.co.uk/

> =========================================

>> ___________________________________________________________________

Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:22:03 -0700

From: Jack Kolb <kolb@ucla.edu>

Subject: Re: The silly season? Sex and the ancient Greeks



>Seen yesterday in _The Guardian_ (and available for perusal in extenso at

>www.newsunlimited.co.uk)

> Book tells it straight about sex lives of ancient Greeks

> Forget the philosophers - a new study debunks the popular view of

>bedroom antics in the classical world, and it's selling by the stack

>Lesley Hall

>lesleyah@primex.co.uk

I searched this site, Leslie, but couldn't find the connection to the book

you mention. Maybe I just gave up too soon. But any further help would be

appreciated.

Jack Kolb

Dept. of English, UCLA

kolb@ucla.edu



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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 01:09:55 -0700

From: Margaret <minxs@sonic.net>

Subject: Re: New members/Introductions/Research Interests register

I'm another non-academic. I run the Pro-Choice Views website at About.com -

http://prochoice.about.com - and am always on the lookout for interesting

links and possible topics for articles that relate to abortion, birth

control, and "reproductive issues" in general.

Parenthetically, I just read "Courtesans and Fishcakes" which is about

appetites in ancient Greece. Anyone familiar with it? (Apologies if it's

been discussed already.)



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Date: 18 Aug 1999 08:57:03 -0000

From: "Histsex:For historians of sexuality" <histsex-owner@listbot.com>

Subject: Conference announcements and calls for papers

In response to Hera's enquiry, yes, these are very welcome (I think it

does indicate on the list home page that this is a place for these, and

indeed information about forthcoming or recently published books in the

field, as well as for discussion).

Lesley

histsex-owner@listbot.com

lesleyah@primex.co.uk



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Date: 18 Aug 1999 08:59:53 -0000

From: "Histsex:For historians of sexuality" <histsex-owner@listbot.com>

Subject: Finding Guardian article





There is a search engine somewhere on the site www.newsunlimited.co.uk

which searches the past 7 days: the page that the link takes you to at

first is always the current day's issue. I located the article in question

by searching on keywords from the headline.

Lesley

histsex-owner@listbot.com

lesleyah@primex.co.uk



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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:55:00 -0600

From: Miriam Jones <mjones@unbsj.ca>

Subject: Re: New members/Introductions/Research Interests register

Well, the trend is too strong to resist, so here is my intro.

A long-time lurker, first-time (?) poster, I recently finished my PhD

in the Graduate Program in English at York U (Toronto, Canada), and

have just begun an appointment in the Dept. of Humanities and

Languages at the University of New Brunswick in Saint John. My

dissertation was "'Too Common and Most Unnatural': rewriting the

'infanticidal woman' in Britain, 1764-1859." It focuses on class and

gender issues in the way women who were accused of infanticide are

represented in folkloric ballads, broadsides, novels, forensic texts,

and newspapers. I will be working with this material for awhile,

turning it into a book (says she, brightly). I am also beginning some

work on "murderous sweetheart" narratives, which grows out of my

diss. research (for every broadside narrative I found about

infanticide, I found five about men who murdered their pregnant

lovers in order to avoid having to marry them). This should bring up

some interesting questions about sexual danger, the construction of

the labouring-class man as brutal, etc. etc.

I have been enjoying the list immensely.

Miriam

m i r i a m j o n e s, PhD

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Assistant Professor

Department of Humanities and Languages

University of New Brunswick in Saint John

P.O. Box 5050

Saint John, NB, Canada E2L 4l5

(506) 648-5602

mailto:mjones@unbsj.ca

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:23:31 -0500

From: "Susan E. Myers-Shirk" <sshirk@mtsu.edu>

Subject: introduction

Hi:

Thought I'd take a moment to introduce myself. I've been reading the

list for sometime, but haven't gotten around to introducing myself yet.

I'm an associate professor in U.S. cultural and intellectual history at

Middle Tennessee State University in Murfreesboro, TN, USA. I'm

finishing up a project right now on Protestant moral imagination in the

mid-twentieth century. It focuses in particular on the work of pastoral

counselors (ordained ministers who were also trained as psychological

counselors and psychotherapists). Surprisingly, (or not surprisingly,

depending upon your perspective) they spent a remarkable amount of time

talking about sex.

This project has led me into my second project in

which I plan to examine the relationship between Protestant mainline or

mainstream denominations and their gay and lesbian parishioners in the

1940s, 1950s, and 1960s, perhaps going as late as the 1970s. There's a

significant amount of published and manuscript material on this topic,

but I'm also looking to interview gay and lesbian folks who were church

members, seminary students/professors or in any way associated with the

Protestant community during these three decades. Any comments or

thoughts from list readers would be welcomed.

I've been enjoying the discussion and am looking forward to more.

Susan Myers-Shirk



___________________________________________________________________

From: "Chris Willis" <chris@chriswillis.freeserve.co.uk>

Subject: Re: Maines and the silly season

Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:13:52 +0100

Hi!

The point I was trying to make is that Maines' work can be interpreted as an

attack on the medical establishment in general and abusive doctors (or what

we would now term abusive doctors) in particular, which might account for

some of the hostility towards her work. Press coverage certainly hasn't

helped!

While I take your point about cultural constructs, I can't entirely agree

that such treatment was necessarily non-abusive. I appreciate that the

doctors may well have claimed it wasn't abuse but, to paraphrase Mandy

Rice-Jones, "Well they would, wouldn't they?" Does Maines give patients'

views of the treatment? I haven't been able to get hold of her book yet, so

I'm having to go on what she's been quoted as saying, which I do appreciate

may not be accurate. (Some of the accounts I've read give the impression

she is talking about abuse, amongst other things, but then, it is the silly

season!)

Does Maines give any examples of female doctors or male patients involved in

this treatment? There's some fascinating gender politics here. It's

interesting that a professionally-qualified man receiving payment for

stimulating a woman to orgasm was considered to be giving medical treatment,

whereas women who did the same for men were regarded as prostitutes.

All the best

Chris

Hera Cook wrote:

> Also she is not

>talking about doctors sexually abusing women.

>She believes that these doctors and these women did not see clitoral

sensations

>as sexual - only vaginal penetration was sexual according to her.

Therefore, she

>argues, that both the doctors and the women saw doctors giving women

clitoral

>massage to orgasm as non-sexual relief of hysteria.

>As I have said I seriously doubt that this practice was at all common, but

where

>(or if) it occurred in the ideological framework Maine presents, I would

argue

>very strongly that it is ahistorical to describe it as sexual abuse. The

>experience of sexual abuse is culturally constructed and accordingly

differs over

>time and in different societies.

>

___________________________________________________________________

Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 07:10:24 +0100

From: Ianthe <ianthe@duende.demon.co.uk>

Subject: Re: Finding Guardian article

In message <934966808.13151.qmail@ech>, Histsex:For historians of

sexuality <histsex-owner@listbot.com> writes

>Histsex:For historians of sexuality - http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah

>>There is a search engine somewhere on the site www.newsunlimited.co.uk

>which searches the past 7 days: the page that the link takes you to at

>first is always the current day's issue. I located the article in question

>by searching on keywords from the headline.

The Financial Times are currently offering free access (next 10 days

or so) to their entire 5000-periodial archive, which includes such UK

national broadsheet newspapers as The Guardian and The Independent.

http://www.ft.com/virtual-globalarchive Rip it while you can ;-)

If you're really clever with Perl and fat academic connection you

could write a script which would syphon off the entire Independent

and Guardian article-database... :)

Yours,

--

Ianthe Duende



___________________________________________________________________

Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 07:23:18 -0700

From: James Anthony <reader45@pacbell.net>

Subject: Re: new member introduction/

Salutations.

I am here. I read and research. I was introduced to this list last May,

by a visiting professor from Amsterdam. I am always quite intrigued by

Sex/Gender/Queer Culture Theory

and the resulting debates. I look forward to new insights.. with keen

attention.



Sincerely,

--

James Anthony



________________________________________________________________

From: "Donna Larsen" <ladydonna85@hotmail.com>

Subject: Re: new member introduction/

Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:58:35 PDT



Hello James. Are you taking the minor in Gay and Lesbian studies at San

Fransico State University. I also hear that they have a minor in Human

Sexuality. What have you or anyone here heard or found with these programs?

I have been considering this, though leaving Seattle is not something I am

anxious to do. I have also considered majoring in Psychology at University

of Washington and then doing one or both of those minors long distance. I

would apreciate any information from anyone concerning any of these

programs.





________________________________________________________________

From: "jayD" <jaysd@mistral.co.uk>

Subject: infanticide/miriam jones

Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:50:14 +0100

I sent the following email to Miriam Jones at her email addres and it has

been returned, so I am sending it to you thru' the group. Hope it is

useful.

j

I read your introduction to histsex and noticed your research is in the

area of infanticide. Have you come across the book _The Morning of Her Day_

by Jennifer Green, which is about a 17-year-old servant girl who was

hanged in 1805 for murdering her bastard child? The author, after going

through the evidence, decided that her death had been engineered by her

lover, who may have been involved with the murder of the child. I should

imagine the book is out of print but was published by Divine Books in 1987

and republished by Darf Publishers 50 Hans Crescent London SW1X 0NA (UK) in

1990.

jay Dixon

jaysd@mistral.co.uk



________________________________________________________________

Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 01:55:10 -0700

From: Jack Kolb <kolb@ucla.edu>

Subject: Re: Finding Guardian article

Many thanks for your kind suggestion, Ianthe. It sounds like a spurious

study. Has it even been accorded an academic review?

Jack Kolb

Dept. of English, UCLA

kolb@ucla.edu



________________________________________________________________

From: "Lesley Hall" <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>

Subject: Eder, Hall and Hekma: Sexual Cultures in Europe: Tables of contents

Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 21:49:07 +0100

It has been suggested to me that members of the list might find this =

information useful. I will also post these details on my website on the =

same page as the announcement of the publication: =

http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah/nwsflsh.htm

National Overviews

Introduction by the editors=20

Sexual cultures in Great Britain: Some persisting themes Lesley A. Hall

Religion and Sexual Culture in Ireland Tony Fahey

The Netherlands: Neither Prudish nor Hedonistic Harry Oosterhuis

Sex and Sexuality in France since 1800 Robert A. Nye

Italy: Sexuality, morality, and public authority: metaphors and =

interventionism

Bruno P. F. Wanrooij

Sexual Cultures in Germany and Austria, 1700-2000 Franz X. Eder

Spain: the political and social context of sex reform in the late =

nineteenth and early twentieth centuries Richard M. Cleminson & Efigenio =

Amez=FAa

Sexuality and politics in Russia (1700-2000) Igor S. Kon

Sexual Science and Sex Reform=20

Medical Science and the Modernisation of Sexuality Harry Oosterhuis

The World League for Sexual Reform: Some Possible Approaches Ralf Dose

Themes in sexuality

Introduction by the editors

Dangerous sexualities and their control=20

Sexual Education in Germany From the Eighteenth to the Twentieth =

Centuries Lutz D.H. Sauerteig

The Rise and Fall of European Syphilisation: The Debates on Human =

Experimentation and Vaccination of Syphilis, c. 1845-1870 Bertrand =

Taithe

The Culture of Compulsion: VD, Sexuality and the State in =

Twentieth-Century Scotlan d Roger Davidson

Stigmatised sexualities=20

Same-sex Relations Among Men in Europe, 1700-1990 Gert Hekma

Pornography in Western European Culture Dorelies Kraakman

National Responses to Sexual Perversions: The Case of Transvestism =

Angus McLaren

Keeping their fingers on the pulse: lesbian doctors in Britain, =

1890-1950 Emily Hamer

Sex and reproduction=20

Falling fertilities and changing sexualities in Europe since c.1850: a =

comparative survey of national demographic patterns Simon Szreter=20

Cultures of abortion in the Hague, early twentieth century Willem de =

Bl=E9court

'Didn't Stop to Think, I Just Didn't Want Another One': the Culture of =

Abortion in Inter-war South Wales Kate Fisher=20

French Catholics between Abstinence and 'Appeasement of Lust', 1930-1950 =

Anne-Marie Sohn





Lesley Hall

lesleyah@primex.co.uk







________________________________________________________________

________________________________________________________________

From: "Lesley Hall" <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>

Subject: Technology of Orgasm

Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 12:28:46 +0100



Histsex:For historians of sexuality - http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah

Well, I've now read this, and must say I find the case less than =

compelling. The case for hysteria as a historically continuous concept =

meaning the same thing over centuries has been convincingly =

deconstructed by Helen King, but one cannot blame Maines for relying on =

the works she did, long regarded as authoritative. A lot of the =

pre-C19th evidence is not contextualised by reference to the concept of =

drawing the womb, wandering round the body, back into its proper place =

(which, as far as I know, was the purpose of midwives massaging the =

female parts with aromatic oils) or to humoural theories of medicine and =

bodily balance. Thus in some cases (though I'm not an expert on the =

period) I think she's reading things that were meant to produce =

menstrual flow (stoppage of which was seen as dangerous damming up of =

bodily fluids) rather than any form of sexual discharge, as being about =

the latter.

The story also seems perhaps to be a particularly N. American one - =

I certainly don't think I've ever seen ads for similar vibratory =

massagers in UK women's periods of the turn of the century, although =

they do include ads for things like 'Widow Welch's Pills', an =

emmengogue/abortifacient, and Rendells Pessaries (contraceptives), and =

this would probably be comparable with other advertising of small =

consumer electrical items in the 2 countries. It might be interesting to =

look at when things like electric irons, vacuum cleaners, and =

whathaveyou were first advertised in the 2 countries, as a general =

exercise in the differential introduction of electrical technology into =

the household. (Though another factor here might be differences in =

availability of domestic servants?)

Hydropathy, massage, etc, were all supposed to have (and do have) =

benefits in toning up the system, relaxation, etc etc, distinct from =

producing orgasms: I have never seen any indication of the women in the =

whirlpool bath at the Sanctuary - Central London health spa - having =

orgasms, though another assumption of this book seems to be that women's =

orgasms are paroxysmal events, observable by bystanders - not =

necessarily!

The evidence for the sexualisation of the vibro-massager in the =

1920s seems thin - one stag film quoted from a source Maines herself =

regards as not entirely reliable. However, I suspect that there is =

another story about the technologisation of sex, which her gendered =

perspective leaves out. Somewhere in my own files I have xeroxes of =

various ads in 'The Pink 'Un' and similar raffish men's periodicals, =

1890s-1900s, for what I assume to be 'personal services' in the =

prostitution sense, but couched in terms of other bodily services such =

as massage and 'electrotherapy'. Were prostitutes using these devices =

_on men_? And would this be a reason for the growing perception of =

massagers as 'obscene objects' which could not be advertised in =

respectable periodicals.

There is interesting and suggestive material in this book but I =

don't think all the evidence adduced will bear the interpretation Maine =

wants it to. =20

Lesley Hall

lesleyah@primex.co.uk

website http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah





________________________________________________________________

From: "Nicky Riding" <nicky@rfharchives.freeserve.co.uk>

Subject: Re: New members/Introductions/Research Interests register

Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 12:29:33 +0100



This came from the dodgy sexuality listserve! What do you think? I nearly

died laughing.

-----Original Message-----

From: Donna Larsen <ladydonna85@hotmail.com>

To: histsex@listbot.com <histsex@listbot.com>

Date: Monday, August 16, 1999 5:46 PM

Subject: Re: New members/Introductions/Research Interests register



>Histsex:For historians of sexuality -

http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah

>

>I am a 35 year old returning student. At the moment I am working on my

>transferrer degree at Seattle Central community college. I plan to obtain

>my PH.D in Psychology and then specialize in education and research in the

>field of human sexuality. I have joined this list mainly to learn.

>

>I am also a lesbian leather woman. I have been a member of the Seattle

>Leather community for about 9 years now. I have been a professional

>Dominatrix. I did that for about 8 years and just recently decided to take

>a breather from that for a while. I am also a pagan whose sexuality and

>spirituality are very much connected.

>

>My wife Stephanie and I are in a Polyamoury relationship. This works

>extremely well for us. So that is Me in nutshell. I have been very much

>enjoying the information and conversations so far.

>

>_______________________________________________________________

Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 09:58:28 -0400

From: Sheila McManus <smcmanus@YorkU.CA>

Subject: Re: New members/Introductions/Research Interests register

Hi Nicky,

>This came from the dodgy sexuality listserve! What do you think? I nearly

>died laughing.

For the benefit of all of us on this listserve I was wondering if you could

explain what exactly it was that you found amusing about Ms. Larsen's

introduction? I for one am thrilled to know that the recipients of this

list represent as much human diversity as the topics we discuss, and that I

am not the only academic leatherdyke in the world.

Sheila McManus

Ph.D. Candidate, Department of History, York University

smcmanus@yorku.ca



________________________________________________________________

From: Kazetnik@aol.com

Message-ID: <c0f7fe70.24f2c116@aol.com>

Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 11:21:58 EDT

Subject: Re: New members/Introductions/Research Interests register

To Nicky Riding

Yes, why do you find this funny? I'm not a leatherdyke but I am a lesbian,

and that community is capable of containing a wide diversity of identities

and practices -- just like this list. A little less judging and a little more

listening might do some good.

Chris White



________________________________________________________________

Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:42:12 +0100

From: Stacy Gillis <stacy.gillis@ukonline.co.uk>

Subject: Re: New members

Whilst not condoning Nicky's comments, I would like to point out that

perhaps she felt that the introduction in question was misplaced. I was

under the impression that this list is concerned with a discussion of the

history and historiography of sexuality. Personal sexual orientation has

not played a part in other introductions and I, for one, would like to

think that I could partake of discussions here without my sexual

preference/personal history being a part of my research/comments. Couldn't

we just move on from this and not get bogged down?

Cheers,

Stacy



---------------------------

Stacy Gillis

stacy.gillis@ukonline.co.uk

http://web.ukonline.co.uk/stacy.gillis/index.htm

The wit of a graduate student is like champagne.

Canadian champagne.

-- Robertson Davies--



________________________________________________________________

From: "Lesley Hall" <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>

Subject: Re: New members

Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 19:44:49 +0100

My impression of Nicky's message was that it was posted in error to the

group.

>Personal sexual orientation has

>not played a part in other introductions and I, for one, would like to

>think that I could partake of discussions here without my sexual

>preference/personal history being a part of my research/comments.

I feel that whatever draws individuals to participate in this group is a

valid topic for their personal introduction. Certainly individuals have

indicated their sexual orientation where they feel this is of relevance.

Lesley Hall

lesleyah@primex.co.uk

website http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah

________________________________________________________________ From: MZink@webtv.net (M Zink)

Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 14:59:50 -0400 (EDT)

Subject: Re: New members

hello,

i am a newbie but, i do have a question, i am in a wheelchair and i

would like to know how many ppl think that it would be hard for them to

have a sexual relationship with a person in a wheelchair, i have only

been in this dang thing since 96 and i really would like to know, not

because i want one myself but i do talk to ppl who are newly in

wheelchairs and i also just want to know?



________________________________________________________________

Subject: Inq. Henning Bech

Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 21:03:45 -0500

From: "Michael J. Murphy" <mjmurphy@artsci.wustl.edu>

I wonder if anyone on the list has read Henning Bech's book _When Men

Meet: Homosexuality and Modernity_ (U. Chicago, 1997)? Interested in

comments from other readers.

Best, cheers, tally ho and all that.

Michael J. Murphy, M.A.

Graduate Student, Dept. of Art History and Archaeology

Washington University, St. Louis

mjmurphy@artsci.wustl.edu

********************************

"And remember darling I don't work before 10:30 and never after 4:30 in

the afternoon."

-Norma Desmond to Cecil B. DeMille in _Sunset

Boulevard_



________________________________________________________________

Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:17:06 +1000

From: Hera Cook <dcoo8738@mail.usyd.edu.au>

Subject: dodgy sexuality

Hi,

Perhaps it would be useful for Nicky to read some theory relevant to the

groups which Donna Larsen belongs. Reading things other than cheap magazine

sensationalism might lead her to be less dismissive of other people's experience.

I am hesitant to suggest any but perhaps Donna might like to.

This might also lead her to be less certain of her own distance from 'the dodgy

sexuality listserve'. For example, harking back to the disucssion of The Sheik,

does she enjoy romances and the dominant/submissive roles enacted therein?

Could people also fill in the subject headings please, it is helpful when tracing

a discussion.

Hera

________________________________________________________________

Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 02:33:09 -0700

From: John Baeza <jbaeza@frontiernet.net>

Subject: Info on Albert Moll

Hello,

I am seeking information regarding Albert Moll's Hanbuch der

Sexualwissenschaften (or in english Handbook of Sexual Science ). I am

especially interested to know if this work has ever been translated into

english. I am particulalarly looking for Moll's thoughts on sadism and

what has been termed "necrosadism" in this work. I know the work has

been cited in several english language articles but I am searching for

the exact language from the book.

Any help would be appreciated.

John J. Baeza









________________________________________________________________ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:47:42 +0200

From: Gert Hekma <hekma@pscw.uva.nl>

Subject: Re: Inq. Henning Bech

>I wonder if anyone on the list has read Henning Bech's book _When Men

>Meet: Homosexuality and Modernity_ (U. Chicago, 1997)? Interested in

>comments from other readers.

Michael J. Murphy, M.A.

>Graduate Student, Dept. of Art History and Archaeology

>Washington University, St. Louis

>mjmurphy@artsci.wustl.edu

It is a great book, I saw it already widely quoted, and it is positively

reviewed in a recent issue of Thamyris (journal for gay & lesbian, gender,

ethnic studies)

Gert Hekma

I edited with Franz Eder and Lesley Hall the two volumes of Sexual Cultures

in Europe, teach gay studies (in English!) at the University of Amsterdam

and do often "Book Ends" for Sexualities (mass-reviews of sexuality-books).

I am an editor of Thamyris.

My recent work is on contemporary sexual cultures, especially in the

Netherlands and Europe. See the website of gay and lesbian studies

www.pscw.uva.nl/gl for articles of mine on Amsterdam, the Netherlands and

other topics.

I am a bookcollector and a satin fetischist

So I have a copy of Albert Moll's Handbuch der Sexualwissenschaft, will

look for necrosadism. As far as I know the book was not translated, but

even if it was, you have to realize that most translations of German

sexology books into other languages, certainly into English, are not very

reliable.



________________________________________________________________ From: "Chris Willis" <chris@chriswillis.freeserve.co.uk>

Subject: Wheelchairs

Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:45:47 +0100

Hi!

My personal answer is if I was attracted to the person then I hope I

wouldn't let myself be put off by the wheelchair. Sorry if this is a rather

simplistic way of putting it.

There was a very good article about sexuality and disability in the Guardian

on Friday, which might be of interest to list members it's on-line at:

http://www.newsunlimited.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,75233,00.html

All the best

Chris

________________________________________________________________ From: MZink@webtv.net (M Zink)

Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 08:00:06 -0400 (EDT)

Subject: Re: Wheelchairs

Chris

thank you for your answering my question,do you know you are the only

person that answered it, and the article was a great help, i think i may

include some of the info on my page at

www.angelfire.com/hi2/quickie121

is it just that my question was not that interesting, or is it just that

people find it hard to talk about folks in wheelchairs and sexuallity, i

am one of the most sexual beings that I know, I feel everything, (below

my waist) and i dont know i thought maybe some other people would have

answered my question, i am rather shocked, guess i should not be though

it has been my experience that ppl have a hard time talking to me about

little things let alone sex. Anyway, thanks once again for being the

only one brave enough to reply to my question about sex and wheelchairs

:+)



________________________________________________________________

Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 06:37:41 -0700

From: Karen Duder <kduder@UVic.CA>

Subject: Re: Wheelchairs

Hi there. I think that you'll probably receive many more replies as people

come back from summer vacations - or perhaps we're just a little slow on

the uptake! I'm with Chris: it seems to me that it's the individual who's

important. Surely if people are attracted to each other and have the desire

to be together, then a wheelchair is naturally to be factored in but

needn't be a "problem". I see attitudes about wheelchairs and about

individuals using them as more of an encumbrance than wheelchairs

themselves. The largest and most offensive mistake that a lot of people

make is that a person in a wheelchair is devoid of sexual desire. And quite

frankly, if a person couldn't be bothered to get their head around

something which was a really important part of my life - "so long, honey"!

That seems ruthless, probably...

I've attached a copy of an annotated bibliography on sexuality and

disability. Unfortunately I no longer have the URL for the site from which

I downloaded it some time ago, but there should be enough info (names of

authors etc.) in it to make it very traceable via a web search. I believe

that I simply ran "sexuality + disability" in as a search term. I don't

think that the bibliography includes the new Disability Studies Reader,

from Routledge (I think) or a couple of other 1998 & 1999 publications. In

any case, I hope that it will have something of interest to many people on

the list.

If it doesn't translate well into your software, let me know and I'll try

sending it in another format.

Karen Duder

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Karen Duder PhD Programme

Department of History Email kduder@uvic.ca

University of Victoria Dept. Phone (250) 721-7382

P.O. Box 3045 Dept. Fax (250) 721-8772

Victoria, B.C. V8W 3P4

CANADA

"Any measurement must take into account the position of the observer.

There is no such thing as measurement absolute, there is only

measurement relative. Relative to what is an important part of the

question." Jeanette Winterson, _Gut Symmetries_

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

________________________________________________________________

From: MZink@webtv.net (M Zink)

Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:08:00 -0400 (EDT)

Subject: Re: Wheelchairs

karen,

thank you so much for your responce to my letter, but the information

you sent was i think in java and i have web, and this silly thing wont

work with it, ah, one other thing, do you think you or someone you know

would ask someone out in a wheelchair, and if you did , where would you

put the chair, do you have a big enough car, and if you drive a truck, i

cant get into it, i just wanted to through out somethings to think

about, and if we go somewere do they have handicap ramps and restrooms,

i cant go to ppls houses that have stairs unless you want to carrie me

up them, and i am a big girl and i really dont want a first date to be

carried around anyway, you are sweet to answer my letter, and i really

want more input, i just want people to think about it, how many times

have you or someone you known said dont stair at that person or don't

ask that question, maybe we should ask the questions, that way the vail

will be off and the dark whole i found myself in a few years back would

not be so bad, i went out to a night spot in our town and it is quite

large and i want you to know, and i dont think of myself as a bad

looking person, that no one would talk to me or anying, they made a big

circle around me and it was like void space, and i guess that is what i

mean, would it be hard to think of yourself that way, or would you have

a problem asking someone out. I must say that years back i would have, i

would like to think that i am not vain but i am, and i dont know,



________________________________________________________________

Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:29:25 -0700

From: Karen Duder <kduder@UVic.CA>

Subject: Re: Wheelchairs

Hi. Ok, here's the bibliography as regular email text. It's a little ugly

in terms of formatting, but it's readable!

These are important questions to raise (and thanks for asking them). And

before anyone on the list should write in and suggest that these sorts of

questions aren't "appropriate" on histsex (the remarks about a recent

posting to the list come to mind), I would venture to suggest that people

examine their reasons for a lack of comfort in trying to answer them. It's

very easy to say, "well, of course it wouldn't be a problem," but one has

to realize that there are many factors to consider, access being a big one.

The car issue is also an important one. I use the buses myself, so it's a

moot point in some respects. Victoria has on all its routes "kneeling"

buses specifically designed for wheelchair and scooter access, so getting

around is annoying but possible. Stairs - got 'em!

Karen

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[SIECUS]

Annotated Bibliographies

Sexuality and Disability

Over the past twenty years, pivotal legislation has gone into effect that

has enabled people with disabilities to gain their rightful place as equal

members of American society. The Rehabilitation Act of 1973, the 1975

Education for All Handicapped Children Act, and the Americans with

Disabilities Act of 1990 have added opportunities for the inclusion and

integration into the community of people of all abilities. With inclusion

and integration come greater opportunities for sexual expression. Thus,

there is a need for greater access to information and educational material

that affirms the sexuality of people of all abilities, including those with

early- and late-onset disabilities; physical, sensory, and mental

disabilities; and disabilities that hinder learning.

SIECUS advocates that all persons, including persons with disabilities,

receive sexuality education, sexual health care, and opportunities for

socializing and sexual expression. This necessitates sexuality education

and training programs for teachers, health care workers, and family members

to help them understand and support the normal sexual development and

behavior of persons with disabilities. Social agencies and health care

delivery systems must develop policies and procedures that will ensure the

provision of services and benefits on an equal basis to all persons without

discrimination because of disability.

This bibliography was prepared by Shelley Ross and Mitchell Tepper, M.P.H.,

Ph.D. candidate, Program in Human Sexuality, Umiversity of Pennsylvania.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

GENERAL BOOKS

Living and Loving: Information about Sexuality and Intimacy

Arthritis Foundation

This book offers tips for solving problems when arthritis interferes

with sexuality. It includes illustrations of comfortable sexual positions

for individuals with arthritis. 1993, 17 pp. Single copies free from local

chapters; bulk rates available.

Arthritis Foundation, PO Box 19000, Atlanta, GA 30326; 800-283-7800.

Sexuality and Multiple Sclerosis, Third Edition

Michael Barrett

This book covers research findings, communication skills for sexual

enhancement, information resources, and positive approaches to sexual

adjustment with multiple sclerosis. It includes sections specifically for

unmarried individuals, gay men, lesbians, and married couples. It discusses

the effects of medication on sexual function. Also available in French.

1991, 80 pp. Single copies free; orders of multiple copies subject to

postage and handling costs.

Multiple Sclerosis Society of Canada, 250 Bloor Street East, Suite

1000, Toronto, Ontario, Canada M4W 3P9; 416-922-6065.

Learning to Love: A Set of Simple Booklets on Sexuality

Brook Advisory Centres

These five publications provide accurate information about sexuality and

reproductive health for young people with learning disabilities. Titles in

the series are Contraception, From Child to Adult, How a Baby Is Born, Sex

and Making Love, and Health & Infections. 1991, 23 pp. each, £12.95 for the

series, bulk rates available.

Education & Publications Unit, Brook Advisory Centres, 153 A East

Street, London SE17 2SD England; 011-44-71-708-1390.

The Sensuous Heart: Sex after a Heart Attack or Heart Surgery

Suzanne Cambre

This cartoon-style booklet explains the emotional and physical needs of

persons who have had heart attacks or heart surgery. It answers questions

about frequency of sexual activity; suggests comfortable positions; and

covers the effects of alcohol, prescribed drugs, stimulants, and illegal

drugs. 1990, 21 pp., $5.75 plus $1.50 postage and handling.

Pritchett and Hull Associates, 3440 Oakcliff Road NE, Suite 110, Atlanta,

GA 30340-3079; 800-241-4925.

The Baby Challenge: A Handbook on Pregnancy for Women with a Physical

Disability

Mukti Jain Campion

This book describes the impact, effect, and outcome of a range of physical

disabilities on pregnancy and childbirth, and of pregnancy and childbirth

on physical disabilities. It outlines how various disabilities affect

fertility, the role of genetics, implications of medication, remission of

symptoms, precautions to take during pregnancy and labor, possible

interventions during delivery, and what to expect in a postnatal ward. A

resource list accompanies each chapter. The book includes a chapter

specifically geared for health care professionals. 1990, $15.95.

Routledge, Chapman & Hall, 29 West 35th Street, New York, NY 10001;

212-244-3336.

Sexuality and Spinal Cord Injury

Sylvia Eichner McDonald, Willa M. Lloyd, Donna Murphy, and Margaret

Gretchen Russert

The authors explore a number of topics regarding sexuality and reproduction

before and after a spinal cord injury, including the physiology of sexual

response and reproductive health. One chapter outlines the steps

individuals with spinal cord injuries may take to prepare for sexual

activity. Another is devoted to different ways to give hugs from a

wheelchair. There is also a general discussion about sexual attitudes,

relationships, parenthood, contraception, and sexually transmitted

diseases. The book concludes with a list of myths about sexuality and

spinal cord injury and a resource list. 1993, 34 pp., $14.95 plus postage

and handling.

The Spinal Cord Injury Center, Froedtert Memorial Lutheran, 9200 West

Wisconsin Avenue, Milwaukee, WI 53226; 414-259-3657.

Women with Disabilities: Essays in Psychology, Culture, and Politics

Michelle Fine and Adrienne Asch, editors

Drawing on law, social science, folklore, literature, psychoanalytic

theory, and political activism, the contributers to this volume describe

the experience of women with disabilities. The essays consider the impact

of social class, race, the age at which disability occurs, and sexual

orientation on the disabled woman's self-esteem, as well as on her life

options. Topics include sex roles and culture, bodies and images, the

constructions of gender and disability, and women with disabilities in

relationships. 1988, 347 pp., $19.95.

Temple University Press, University Service Building, Room 305, Broad and

Oxford Streets, Philadelphia, PA 19122; 215-204-8787.

Past Due: A Story of Disability, Pregnancy, and Birth

Anne Finger

The author, who was disabled by polio during childhood, explores the

complexities of disability and reproductive rights through an account of

her pregnancy and home birth experience. Disability rights, motherhood, and

reproductive freedom are among the issues she raises. 1990, 200 pp., $10.95.

The Seal Press, 3131 Western Avenue, Suite 410, Seattle, WA 98121-1028;

206-283-7844.

Love: Where to Find It, How to Keep It

Elle Friedman Becker

This self-help book describes ways for people with disabilities to meet and

discusses communication skills, dating, and terminating relationships. It

is written from the personal experiences and professional observations of a

single woman with an acquired disability who works as a counseling

psychologist. 1991, 104 pp., $6.95 plus $1.25 postage and handling. Accent

Special Publications, Cheever Publishing, PO Box 700, Bloomington, IL

61702; 309-378-2961.

Marriage and Disability

Betty Garee and Raymond Cheever, editors

In this collection of articles from ACCENT magazine, people with a variety

of physical disabilities tell how they met and married, and discuss the

happy, successful lives they are living with their spouses. 1992, 80 pp.,

$7.95.

Accent Special Publications, Cheever Publishing, PO Box 700, Bloomington,

IL 61702; 309-378-2961.

Reproductive Issues for Persons with Physical Disabilities

Florence P. Haseltine, Sandra S. Cole, and David B. Gray, editors This

resource features contributions from both consumers with disabilities and

health professionals from a variety of backgrounds. Chapters focus on

dispelling myths about sexuality and disability and exploring sexual issues

that challenge people with disabilities. Topics include basic information

about congenital and acquired physical disabilities, reproductive rights

and opportunities, sexual dysfunctions, sexually transmitted diseases,

reproductive physiology, sexual development, health care needs, fertility,

birth control, adoptions, pregnancy, labor and delivery, and parenthood.

Personal stories of people with disabilities appear throughout the book,

and various clinical and policy issues are discussed. 1993, 400 pp., $33.00.

Paul H. Brookes Publishing, PO Box 10624, Baltimore, MD 21285-0624;

800-638-3775.

Sex and Back Pain Lauren Andrew Hebert

A physical therapist describes various types of back pain and sexual

positions for maximum comfort. Line drawings and photographs illustrate

recommended exercises and sexual positions for people who experience back

pain. All individuals in the photographs are clothed. In an accompanying

video, a partially clothed man and woman demonstrate the various sexual

positions described in the book. Book: 1992, 121 pp., $12.95. Video: 1993,

21 min., $149.00 (comes with three 21-page professional manuals; additional

manuals are available for $6.00 each).

IMPACC, 1 Washington Street, PO Box 1247, Greenville, ME 04441;

800-762-7720; from outside the United States, 207-695-3354.

Understanding and Expressing Sexuality: Responsible Choices for Individuals

with Developmental Disabilities

Rosalyn Kramer Monat-Haller

The author draws on her experience in counseling to discuss sexuality

issues for people with developmental disabilities. Topics include anatomy

and physiology, physical maturation, contraception, marriage, parenthood,

AIDS, sexually transmitted diseases, and sexual exploitation and abuse. The

book includes a bibliography, resource list, and therapeutic intervention

tools. The author conducts in-service training and workshops on this book.

1992, 240 pp., $26.00 plus $2.50 postage and handling. Residents of South

Carolina add 5 percent sales tax.

Paul H. Brookes Publishing. Place orders through Rosalyn Kramer

Monat-Haller, PO Box 2103, Summerville, SC 29484; 803-873-6935.

Enabling Romance: A Guide to Love, Sex, and Relationships for the Disabled

(And People Who Care about Them)

Ken Kroll and Erica Levy Klein

This book contains information on the sexual abilities and limitations

of amputees and individuals with spinal cord injuries, multiple sclerosis,

blindness, hearing impairments, and neuromuscular disorders. It includes

guidelines for overcoming stereotypes and offers advice on family planning,

safer sex, and establishing intimacy. 1992, 209 pp., $22.50.

Harmony Books/Crown Publishers, 201 East 50th Street, New York, NY 10022;

800-733-3000.

Sexual Rehabilitation of the Spinal-Cord-Injured Patient

J. F. J. Leyson, editor

Twenty-eight experts in the fields of sexuality, sexual dysfunction, and

spinal cord injury contributed to this practical guide to the management of

every type of sexual dysfunction arising from spinal cord injury. The book

also explores fertility, pregnancy, and sexual orientaiton among

individuals with spinal cord injury. 1991, 560 pp., $89.50.

Humana Press, 999 Riverview Drive, Suite 208, Totowa, NJ 07512; 201-256-1699.

Survivor: For People with Developmental Disabilities Who Have Been Sexually

Assaulted

Los Angeles Commission on Assaults against Women

This publication is made up of two spiral-bound booklets. Booklet 1 is

written for individuals with minimal reading levels, to be read with the

assistance of a teacher or parent. Booklet 2 is designed for parents,

teachers, advocates, and others. 1986, single copies free, $1.50 postage

and handling.

Los Angeles Commission on Assaults against Women, 6043 Hollywood Boulevard,

Suite 200, Los Angeles, CA 90028; 213-462-1281.

Finding Love and Intimacy

Robert Mauro

>From the editor and publisher of PeopleNet, the personals newsletter for

unmarried persons with disabilities, comes this compilation of essays,

poems, short stories, and book reviews on love, relationships, and

sexuality. Topics include dealing with protective parents, arranging dates,

and coping with shyness. 1994, 190 pp., $8.95. Accent Special Publications,

Cheever Publishing, PO Box 700, Bloomington, IL 61702; 309-378-2961.

A Guide to Bladder Cancer, Urostomy and Impotence

Roni Olsen

This book offers guidance to people who have recently received a diagnosis

of bladder cancer or who are contemplating a urinary diversion (or an

ostomy of any type). The author shares her husband's experience with

bladder cancer and the results of her own extensive research. 1994, 140

pp., $6.95 plus $1.50 postage and handling. Highline Editions, 6400

Southwood Drive, Littleton, CO 80121; 303-798-8281.

Smooth Sailing into the Next Generation: The Causes and Prevention of

Mental Retardation

Diane Plumridge and Judith Hylton

This manual defines mental retardation, discusses its known causes, and

outlines several discussion points and possible choices one might make that

could influence the risk of producing children with a cognitive disability.

Personal responsibility is emphasized, along with the importance of

planning pregnancy and parenthood within a lifestyle of mature behavior.

1989, 139 pp., 19.95 plus $2.00 postage and handling, bulk rates available.

R & E Publishers, 468 Auzerais Avenue, Suite A, San Jose, CA 95126;

408-866-6303.

The Sensuous Wheeler, Sexual Adjustment for the Spinal Cord Injured Barry Rabin

This sexuality guide for men and women with spinal cord injuries covers

sexual response, adjustment, and functioning. It also outlines ideas for

attracting a partner, preparing for sexual activity, sexual positions, and

nondemand pleasure techniques. 1980, 153 pp., $14.95 plus $3.00 postage and

handling.

New Mobility, Miramar Communications, PO Box 8987, Malibu, CA 90265-8987;

800-543-4116, ext. 454.

The Right to Control What Happens to Your Body: A Straightforward Guide to

Issues of Sexuality & Sexual Abuse

The Roeher Institute

This easy-to-read, large-print book discusses the risk and incidence of

sexual abuse of people with mental disabilities. It includes definitions of

abuse and assault, as well as suggesting ways of recognizing, treating, and

preventing sexual abuse. This guide includes a glossary and lists of

referral sources and legal resources. 1991, 29 pp., $7.00 (Canadian) plus

15 percent postage and handling.

The Roeher Institute, Kinsmen Building, York University, 4700 Keele Street,

North York, Ontario, Canada M3J 1P3; 416-661-9611.

Sexual Abuse Prevention Programs and Mental Handicap: A Report Prepared by

the G. Allan Roeher Institute

The Roeher Institute

This Canadian study analyzes several prevention programs in terms of their

suitability or adaptability for use with people who have a mental

impairment. It explores what information is appropriate and required in a

prevention program that deals with people with a disability, summarizes

findings and general trends across programs studied, and presents

recommendations for future development. 1989, 70 pp., $6.00 (Canadian) plus

15 percent postage and handling.

The Roeher Institute, Kinsmen Building, York University, 4700 Keele Street,

North York, Ontario, Canada M3J 1P3; 416-661-9611.

Vulnerable: Sexual Abuse and People with an Intellectual Handicap

The Roeher Institute

This study addresses the problems of society's denial of sexual feelings

and of sexual abuse among persons with intellectual disabilities, the

prevalence of sexual abuse among such individuals, and risk factors of

developmental disability as related to sexual abuse. It discusses treatment

and effects of abuse, accessibility of services, prevention, legal issues,

and sex offenders who have an intellectual disability. 1989, 115 pp.,

$14.00 Canadian plus 15 percent postage and handling.

The Roeher Institute, Kinsmen Building, York University, 4700 Keele Street,

North York, Ontario, Canada M3J 1P3; 416-661-9611.

Mother-to-Be: Guide to Pregnancy and Birth for Women with Disabilities

Judith Rogers and Molleen Matsumura

This book discusses all aspects of pregnancy in the context of disability,

from making the decision to have a child to the problems that women with

disabilities confront after giving birth. It begins with interviews with

thirty-six women who have a range of disabilities, including cerebral

palsy, lupus, ataxia, multiple sclerosis, spina bifida, postpolio syndrome,

and arthritis. Other chapters discuss nutrition, exercise, labor, and

delivery. Appendices include dietary plans, a glossary, an extensive index,

and lists of important resource organizations and suggested reading

materials. 1991, 410 pp., $24.95 plus $4.00 postage and handling.

Demos Publications, 386 Park Avenue South, Suite 201, New York, NY 10016;

212-683-0072.

The Illustrated Guide to Better Sex for People with Chronic Pain Robert W.

Rothrock and Gabriella D'Amore

This self-help booklet provides information about frequent problems that

interfere with sexual enjoyment for individuals who suffer from chronic

pain and suggests simple, basic solutions. It includes six illustrations

showing comfortable sexual positions for persons with

various pain disorders, and stresses the importance of communication

between partners. 1991, 37 pp., $8.95 plus $3.00 postage and handling, bulk

prices available.

R. Rothrock & G. D'Amore, 201 Woolston Drive, PO Box 1355, Morrisville, PA

19067-0325; 215-736-1266.

Sexual Concerns When Illness or Disability Strikes

Carol Sandowski

This book discusses the possible effects of various medical conditions

(arthritis, diabetes, spinal cord injury, alcoholism) on sexual

functioning, relationships, self-esteem, and communication. The author

explores treatments for sexual dysfunction. 1989, 281 pp., $56.75 plus

$5.50 postage and handling.

Charles C. Thomas Publisher, 2600 South First Street, Springfield, IL

62794-9265; 217-789-8980, 800-258-8980.

Sexuality & Cancer: For the Woman Who Has Cancer and Her Partner Leslie R.

Schover

This booklet offers information about cancer and female sexuality.

Information includes the effects of cancer and treatment on sexuality, keys

to staying sexually healthy during cancer treatment, how to seek

professional help, and a list of resources. 1991, 40 pp., free.

The American Cancer Society, New York, NY. All orders are taken by local

chapters; consult your local telephone directory.

Growing Up: A Social and Sexual Education Picture Book for Young People

with Mental Retardation

Victor Shea and Betty Gordon

This book is designed to be read to students ages twelve and older who have

moderate to severe mental impairments, although many parts may be suitable

for younger students with mild learning problems. The book is looseleaf,

providing basic information and illustrations on the right, and ideas for

discussion and further learning activities on the left. This format allows

for tailoring the program to individual needs. 1991, 147 pp., $22.00 plus

$3.00 postage and handling.

Clinical Center for the Study of Development and Learning Library, UNC-CH,

BSRC, CB#7255, Chapel Hill, NC 27599; 919-966-5171.

Changes in You: A Clearly Illustrated, Simply Worded Explanation of the

Changes of Puberty for Boys

Changes in You: A Clearly Illustrated, Simply Worded Explanation of the

Changes of Puberty for Girls

Peggy C. Siegel

These books explain changes of puberty in a simple, positive manner. They

cover such topics as physical development, menstruation, erections,

masturbation, wet dreams, and sexual abuse prevention. A parent guide

accompanies each book. 1994, 47 pp. each, $8.95 each. Family Life Education

Associates, PO Box 7466, Richmond, VA 23221; 804-262-0531.

Fact Sheet: HIV/AIDS Prevention for People with Disabilities

Sharon Wachsler

This comprehensive fact sheet covers HIV/AIDS prevention and testing

information, and includes a list of resources and agencies. 1991, 20 pp.,

single copies free, multiple copies $1.00 each for Massachusetts residents

and $2.00 each for others.

Information Center for Individuals with Disabilities, Fort Point Place,

27-43 Wormwood Street, Boston, MA 02210-1606; 617-727-5540; TDD

617-345-9743.

Intimacy and Disability

Barbara F. Waxman, Judi Levin, and June Isaacson Kailes

Written by and for individuals with disabilities, this guide assists people

in overcoming barriers to developing intimate relationships. Topics include

self-image, body image, sexuality, dating, intimacy, contraception, and

sexual abuse. The book includes a resource list.

1982, 110 pp., $5.50.

National Rehabilitation Information Center, 8455 Colesville Road, Suite

935, Silver Spring, MD 20910-3319; 800-346-2742.

Signs of Sexual Behavior: An Introduction to Some Sex-related Vocabulary in

American Sign Language

James Woodward

This introduction to sexuality-related American Sign Language vocabulary

offers clear illustrations of more than 130 signs. Comprehensive

explanations and notes on derivation are included. A video illustrating the

signs is also available. Book: 1993, 81 pp., $7.95. Video: 1993, 30 min.,

$24.95. Book and video: $29.95.

T.J. Publishers, 817 Silver Spring Avenue, Silver Spring, MD 20910,

301-585-4440.

BOOKS FOR PARENTS

HIV & AIDS Prevention Guide for Parents

The Arc

Developed to assist parents and caregivers in talking about HIV/AIDS with

their children who have developmental or learning disabilities, this guide

includes illustrations, resource lists, and position statements. 1991, 14

pp., 1-9 copies, $3.50 each; 10-29 copies, $2.50 each; 30 or more copies,

$1.50 each.

Publications, National Headquarters of the Arc, PO Box 1047, Arlington, TX

76004; 817-261-6003.

Sexuality and People with Intellectual Disability

Lydia Fegan, Anne Rauch, and Wendy McCarthy

This book candidly discusses sexuality and the attitudes of both

individuals with intellectual disabilities and their caregivers. Sample

dialogues and case situations, discussion of sexual rights for people with

intellectual disabilities, and policy guidelines for organizations also are

included. 1993, 144 pp., $30.00.

Paul H. Brookes Publishing, PO Box 10624, Baltimore, MD 21285-0624;

410-337-9580, 800-638-3775.

Shared Feelings: A Parent's Guide to Sexuality Education for Children,

Adolescents, and Adults Who Have a Mental Handicap

Diane Maksym

This book is intended to help parents of children with mental impairments

learn how to teach their sons and daughters about relationships and

sexuality. A parent guide includes tips for facilitating support networks,

goal setting, and working in groups. Outlines for seven meetings are

included. 1990, 181 pp. Parent guide: $16.00. Discussion guide: $14.00

(Canadian) plus 15 percent postage and handling.

The Roeher Institute, Kinsmen Building, York University, 4700 Keele

Street, North York, Ontario, Canada M3J 1P3; 416-661-9611.

How to Thrive, Not Just Survive: A Guide to Developing Independent Life

Skills for Blind and Visually Impaired Children and Youth

Rose-Marie Swallow and Kathleen Mary Huebner, editors

This book is a guide for parents, teachers, and others involved in helping

children with visual impairments develop skills for daily living. Topics

include sexuality education, motor development, personal hygiene and

grooming, clothing selection, self-esteem, social behavior, communication,

and low-vision devices. 1987, 93 pp., $16.95 plus $3.50 postage and

handling.

American Foundation for the Blind, c/o American Book Center, Brooklyn

Navy Yard, Building 3, Brooklyn, NY 11205; 718-852-9873.

An Easy Guide for Caring Parents: Sexuality and Socialization-A Book

for Parents of People with Mental Handicaps

Lynn McKee and Virginia Blacklidge

This book addresses the social needs of children with mental

impairments and other developmental disabilities. It discusses the crucial

role of parents in their children's sexuality education and contains a

comprehensive discussion of sexual development, addressing topics such as

growing up, responsible sexual behavior, masturbation, social life, sexual

orientation, fertility and birth control, sexual abuse, and marriage. 1986,

56 pp., $7.25, bulk rates available. Planned Parenthood/Shasta-Diablo, 2185

Pacheco Street, Concord, CA 94520; 510-676-0505.

BOOKS FOR PROFESSIONALS

The HIV Guide: Resources for Board Members and Administrators

The Arc

This practical guide is intended to help local and state chapter executives

develop and adopt policies and procedures necessary to

address HIV/AIDS issues with staff, consumers, and volunteers. 1991, 48

pp., $6.00.

Publications, National Headquarters of the Arc, PO Box 1047, Arlington, TX

76004; 817-261-6003.

Summary of the National Forum on HIV/AIDS Prevention Education for

Children and Youth with Special Needs

Association for the Advancement of Health Education (AAHE)

This report of an assessment of HIV/AIDS prevention education for special

education students summarizes findings, presents conclusions and

recommendations, and includes a reading list. 1989, 38 pp., single copies

free.

Association for the Advancement of Health Education (AAHE), 1900

Association Drive, Reston, VA 22091; 703-476-3437.

The Sexual Assault Survivor's Handbook for People with Developmental

Disabilities and Their Advocates

Norma J. Baladerian

This book can be used as a guide and support after a sexual assault of an

individual with a developmental disability. It walks the reader through the

events following an assault, and provides guidelines for counseling

survivors and their families. The book can also be used to teach

professionals about how to prevent the sexual assault of people with

developmental disabilities. 1991, 34 pp., $11.95 plus $2.50 postage and

handling.

R & E Publishers, 468 Auzerais Avenue, Suite A, San Jose, CA 95126;

408-866-6303.

HIV Infection and Developmental Disabilities: A Resource for Service

Providers

Allen C. Crocker, Herbert J. Cohen, and Theodore A. Kastner, editors This

text looks at the medical, social, legal, and educational issues involved

in providing appropriate HIV-related services to people with developmental

disabilities. It includes discussion of the developmental needs of children

and youth with congenital and acquired HIV infection, special concerns of

staff, and policy considerations. 1992, 320 pp., $47.00.

Paul H. Brookes Publishing, PO Box 10624, Baltimore, MD 21285-0624;

410-337-9580.

Socialization and Sexuality: A Comprehensive Training Guide for

Professionals Helping People with Disabilities that Hinder Learning

Winifred Kempton

This guide outlines a sexuality education course for persons with

developmental disabilities. It describes teaching strategies that have

proven successful with such individuals and details the process of training

professionals to become sexuality educators for students with cognitive

disabilities. A list of print, video, and multimedia resources is included.

1993, 348 pp., $39.95.

James Stanfield Company, PO Box 41058, Santa Barbara, CA 93140;

800-421-6534. Or Planned Parenthood of Southeast Pennsylvania, 1144

Locust Street, Philadelphia, PA 19107-5740; 215-351-5590.

Teaching Persons with Mental Retardation about Sexuality and Relationships

June Kogut and Susan Vilardo

This manual offers educators of persons with mental retardation guidance

for the development and implementation of sexuality education programs. The

authors are sexuality educators for Planned Parenthood of Connecticut.

1994, $49.95.

Publications Department, Planned Parenthood of Connecticut, 129 Whitney

Avenue, New Haven, CT 06510; 203-865-5158.

Sexuality and the Mentally Retarded: A Clinical and Therapeutic Guidebook

Rosalyn Kramer Monat-Haller

This guide to sexuality counseling and education for individuals with

developmental disabilities presents ethical challenges, suggestions, and

ideas for debate. It covers the role of sexuality counseling, the

development of healthy psychosocial and sexual attitudes, and public

relations for sexuality education and counseling. The author also provides

in-service training and workshops on this book. 1982, 150 pp., $21.50 plus

$2.50 postage and handling. Residents of South Carolina add 5 percent sales

tax.

College Hill Press. Place orders through Rosalyn Kramer Monat-Haller, PO

Box 2103, Summerville, SC 29484, 803-873-6935.

Barrier Free: Serving Young Women with Disabilities

Linda Marks and Harilyn Rousso

This training manual for groups that provide services to teenagers with

physical or sensory disabilities examines some important issues that young

women with such disabilities face, including career exploration,

independent living, and sexuality. 1991, 52 pp., $8.00.

Education Development Center, Women's Educational Equity Act Publishing

Center, 55 Chapel Street, Newton, MA 02158-1060; 800-225-3088, 617-969-7100.

Choices: A Guide to Sex Counseling with Physically Disabled Adults Maureen

E. Neistadt and Maureen Freda

Written for rehabilitation professionals who provide sexuality counseling,

this book contains guidelines for limited sexuality counseling and examines

issues of intimacy and communication, as well as the sexual response cycle.

This book discusses functional and sexual difficulties caused by

disabilities and the impact of disability on social issues such as privacy,

dating, marriage, and childbearing. Reading and resource lists are

included. 1987, 132 pp., $14.50. Robert E. Krieger Publishing, PO Box 9542,

Melbourne, FL 32902-9542; 407-724-9542.

No More Victims: Addressing the Sexual Abuse of People with a Mental Handicap

The Roeher Institute

This series of four manuals can be used by police, social workers,

counselors, families, and members of the legal community concerned about

the sexual abuse of people with a mental disability. The series explores

factors that put people with mental impairments at risk of sexual abuse,

and discusses detection, appropriate responses, and prevention. Each manual

includes a two-day training curriculum. 1992, $15.00 per manual.

The Roeher Institute, Kinsmen Building, York University, 4700 Keele Street,

North York, Ontario, Canada M3J 1P3; 416-661-9611.

Sexuality and Chronic Illness: A Comprehensive Approach

Leslie R. Schover and Soren Buus Jensen

Using an integrative biopsychosocial approach, this volume reviews basic

skills needed to comfortably discuss sexuality with chronically ill

patients, assess sexual problems through both psychological and

medical approaches, and create a systematic treatment plan. 1988, 347

pp., $47.50 plus $3.50 postage and handling.

Guilford Publications, 72 Spring Street, New York, NY 10012; 800-365-7006.

Violence and Abuse in the Lives of People with Disabilities: The End of

Silent Acceptance?

Dick Sobsey

This guide to understanding and preventing abuse includes accounts of abuse

from the perspectives of both victims and offenders, a conceptual framework

for understanding the nature of abuse and why it occurs, and practical

strategies for abuse detection and prevention. Part 1 is devoted to

understanding abuse and includes a section on sexual abuse and assault.

Part 2 focuses on abuse prevention and discusses the importance of

sexuality education-as well as sexual abuse prevention programs-in the

prevention of sexual abuse. An annotated list of individuals and

organizations is included. 1994, 480 pp., $27.00.

Paul H. Brookes, PO Box 10624, Baltimore, MD 21285-0624; 410-337-9580.

Disability, Sexuality, and Abuse: An Annotated Bibliography

Dick Sobsey, Don Wells, Diane Pyper, and Beth Reimer-Heck

Containing over 1,100 entries, this comprehensive reference book brings

together literature from a wide range of disciplines relevant to the sexual

abuse, assault, and exploitation of persons with disabilities. It includes

research studies, position papers, program descriptions, clinical reports,

and media accounts. 1991, 208 pp., $26.00.

Paul H. Brookes Publishing, PO Box 10624, Baltimore, MD 21285-0624;

410-337-9580.

CURRICULA

Not a Child Anymore

Brook Advisory Centres

This twelve-module training program designed for use with young adults with

mental impairment covers topics such as human relationships, anatomy,

physiological development, reproduction, pregnancy and childbirth, child

care, sexual relationships, contraception and sexually transmitted

diseases. Each module is self-contained, enabling presenters to follow the

interest and needs of the group. A teacher manual, evaluation kit,

illustrations, flip folder of the human body, and fabric kits to make

anatomically correct three-dimensional models are included. 1991, £189.00

for complete program.

Brook Advisory Centres, Education & Publications Unit, 153A East

Street, London SE17 2SD England; 011-44-71-708-1390.

CIRCLES: A Multi-media Package to Aid in the Development of Appropriate

Social/Sexual Behavior in the Developmentally Disabled Individual Marklyn

Champagne and Leslie Walker-Hirsch

This three-part series includes curricula, videos, photos, wall chart, and

discussion guide. CIRCLES I deals with intimacy and relationships, and

includes twelve live-action videos. CIRCLES II deals with sexual abuse

prevention. CIRCLES III covers sexually transmitted diseases, including

HIV/AIDS. CIRCLES I (revised): 1993, $599.00. CIRCLES II: 1987, $399.00.

CIRCLES III: 1988, $399.00. Discounts available for sets.

James Stanfield Company, PO Box 41058, Santa Barbara, CA 93140;

800-421-6534.

Janet's Got Her Period

Judi Gray and Jitka Jilich

This curriculum for girls and young women with severe developmental

disabilities, consisting of a video and an illustrated storybook with

full-color photographs, tells the story of a young girl who learns

menstrual self-care from her mother and sister. The program includes a

detailed task analysis of behaviors required for using sanitary pads. This

curriculum is suitable for home instruction. 1990. Guidelines: 40

pp. Storybook: 24 pp. Pictograph chart and twenty-four laminated pictograph

cards: $279.00.

James Stanfield Company, PO Box 41058, Santa Barbara, CA 93140; 800-421-6534.

Being Sexual: An Illustrated Series on Sexuality and Relationships Dave

Hingsburger and Susan Ludwig; illustrated by James F. Whittingham This

clearly written and richly illustrated sixteen-book series presents

important information about sexuality and relationships for

adolescents and adults with developmental disabilities or problems with

literacy, learning, or communication. The books address the personal

feelings, individual rights, and social expectations associated with a

variety of sexuality-related topics. Key concepts and definitions on each

page are translated into Blissymbols, with new symbols highlighted. 1993,

$60.00 for individuals, $80.00 for organizations. Sex Information &

Education Council of Canada, 850 Coxwell Avenue, East York, Ontario, Canada

M4C 5RI; 416-466-5304.

SAFE: Stopping AIDS through Functional Education

Judith Hylton

This comprehensive instructional package for use with adolescents and

adults with developmental or learning disabilities contains guidelines for

developing a comprehensive HIV/AIDS prevention program. It includes videos,

brochures, slides, and illustrations. 1992, 200 pp., $75.00. Child

Development and Rehabilitation Center, CDRC/OHSU, Publications Department,

PO Box 574, Portland, OR 97207-0574; 503-494-8699. Or Publications,

National Headquarters of the Arc, PO Box 1047, Arlington, TX, 76004;

817-261-6003.

Life Horizons I & II

Winifred Kempton

This two-part curriculum, consisting of slides and instructor handbooks, is

a revised version of Sexuality and the Mentally Handicapped. Part 1 (over

500 slides) discusses anatomy, puberty, reproduction, contraception, and

HIV/AIDS. Part 2 (over 600 slides) deals with the psychosocial aspects of

sexuality, including self-esteem; moral, legal, and social issues; dating;

marriage; parenthood; and sexual abuse. 1988, $399.00 each, $699.00 for

both. James Stanfield Company, PO Box 41058, Santa Barbara, CA 93140;

800-421-6534.

Sex Education for Persons with Disabilities that Hinder Learning: A

Teacher's Guide

Winifred Kempton and Frank Caparulo

This resource for educators covers effective techniques and strategies for

teaching sexuality education to people with cognitive disabilities. The

book outlines the major components of a comprehensive sexuality program. It

includes an extensive bibliography. 1989, 200 pp., $29.95 plus 15 percent

postage and handling.

James Stanfield Company, PO Box 41058, Santa Barbara, CA 93140; 800-421-6534.

No-Go-Tell!: Protection Curriculum for Young Children with Special Needs

Elisabeth J. Krents and Dale Special Atkins (second edition) Elisabeth J.

Krents and Shella Brenner (curriculum guide, revised edition)

This curriculum, made up of seventy-six illustrated teaching panels, deals

with preventing abuse of children in preschool and early elementary school

who have communication and language limitations. It features guidelines for

developing a school child abuse policy and includes sections on parental

involvement, curriculum implementation, and up-to-date information on

physical and sexual abuse research. The curriculum is divided into three

sections: interpersonal relationships, appropriate touch, and inappropriate

touch. Personal safety issues are illustrated through the use of

black-and-white drawings. Role-play exercises are included. This curriculum

avoids "stranger-danger"

messages. The complete program includes two dolls. 1991, 69 pp. plus

seventy-six teaching panels, $299.00 ($199.00 without dolls). James

Stanfield Company, PO Box 41058, Santa Barbara, CA 93140, 800-421-6534.

Human Sexuality: A Portfolio for Persons with Developmental Disabilities,

Second Edition

Victoria Livingston and Mary E. Knapp

This portfolio can be used by any group in need of basic knowledge about

human sexuality. It consists of ten large color drawings

illustrating anatomy and sexual functions, discussion suggestions, and a

script for the teacher printed on the back of each plate. 1991, $24.95 plus

15 percent postage and handling.

Bookstore, Planned Parenthood of Seattle-King County, 2211 East Madison,

Seattle, WA 98112-5397; 206-328-7716.

Sexuality: A Curriculum for Individuals Who Have Difficulty with

Traditional Learning Methods Susan Ludwig Developed by a teacher of

individuals with developmental disabilities, this manual includes topics on

feelings, self-esteem, anatomy, puberty, reproduction, social behavior,

contraception, and sexually transmitted diseases. Each section presents

information on several levels, from simple and concrete to more difficult

and abstract, and includes activities that can be adapted to students'

prior knowledge and the individual needs of the group. This curriculum

includes sessions for parents and caregivers. 1989, 145 pp., $38.00

(Canadian).

The Regional Municipality of York Public Health, Community Health Nursing,

4261 Highway 7 East, Suite 202, Unionville, Ontario, Canada L3R 9W6;

905-940-1333.

Positive Approaches: A Sexuality Guide for Teaching Developmentally

Disabled Persons

Lisa Maurer

This guide provides a format for teachers, parents, and caregivers to

assist persons with developmental disabilities in acquiring knowledge and

skills for understanding and expressing their individual sexuality in a

safe and appropriate manner. Background information is coupled with a

variety of exercises, fact sheets, and programs concerning anatomy,

physiology, contraception, relationships, pregnancy, and parenthood. 1991,

91 pp., $40.00.

Education Department, Planned Parenthood of Delaware, 625 Shipley Street,

Wilmington, DE 19801; 302-655-7293.

Signs for Sexuality: A Resource Manual for Deaf and Hard of Hearing

Individuals, Their Families, and Professionals, Second Edition

Marlyn Minkin and Laurie Rosen-Ritt

This curriculum contains information on sexual abuse, sexually transmitted

diseases, and reproductive health, with more than 600 photographs to

illustrate 250 vocabulary terms associated with sexuality. Appendices

include contraception information and anatomical drawings. 1991, $24.95

plus 15 percent postage and handling. Bookstore, Planned Parenthood of

Seattle-King County, 2211 East Madison, Seattle, WA 98112-5397;

206-328-7716.

The Project Action Curriculum: Sexual Assault Awareness for People with

Disabilities

Carolyn S. Paige, Sarah Wright, and Melanie Schaefer

This curriculum is designed for use with persons who have mild to moderate

cognitive disabilities. Sections 1-4 give background information on sexual

assault, sexuality, and disability, and present a variety of strategies and

suggestions for teaching sexual assault awareness. Sections 5-9 make up the

body of the curriculum, covering different kinds of touching, sexual

exploitation, and disclosure. Sections 10-15 include behavior assessment

forms, role-plays, case studies, a glossary, body maps, a caregiver packet,

and values exploration exercises for staff. 1991, 128 pp., $99.95 plus $5.00

postage and handling.

Seattle Rape Relief, 1905 South Jackson, Seattle, WA 98144; 206-325-5531

(TTY at same number).

Changes in You: An Introduction to Sexual Education through an

Understanding of Puberty

Peggy Siegel

This family life education program for young people with cognitive

disabilities is intended to help students in grades 4-9 develop strong,

positive feelings about themselves as they make the transition into

puberty. The complete program includes seventy-three laminated teaching

pictures; illustrated student manuals; parent guides; and a curriculum

guide with teaching activities, objectives, lesson plans, and tests. 1991,

$299.00.

James Stanfield Company, PO Box 41058, Santa Barbara, CA 93140; 800-421-6534.

The Family Education Program Manual

Katherine Simpson, editor

This manual includes complete curricula for teaching sexuality,

self-esteem, and abuse prevention to students with developmental and

learning disabilities. Areas covered include working with schools, setting

up educational plans, working with parents, and dealing with teachers'

concerns. The manual contains training outlines and resources, a complete

section on audiovisual instruction, reproducible teaching graphics, and

pretest and posttest evaluations. 1990, 300 pp., $35.00.

Planned Parenthood/Shasta-Diablo, 2185 Pacheco Street, Concord, CA 94520;

510-676-0505.

LIFEFACTS: Essential Information about Life for Persons with Special Needs

James Stanfield Company

Of these seven programs designed to provide health education professionals

with essential materials and information to teach adolescents and adults

with developmental and learning disabilities, three specifically address

sexuality: AIDS (1991), Sexuality (1990), and Sexual Abuse Prevention

(1990). Each curriculum is designed to enable educators to choose the

appropriate level of presentation, depending on students' needs and

community attitudes. Each kit includes a curriculum guide, laminated

pictures and 35mm slides, worksheets, and evaluation material. 1991,

$199.00 each, $893.00 for the set. Discount rates available for

combinations of curricula.

James Stanfield Company, PO Box 41058, Santa Barbara, CA 93140; 800-421-6534.

Special Education: Secondary F.L.A.S.H. (Family Life and Sexual Health): A

Curriculum for 5th through 10th Grades

Jane Stangle

This comprehensive program is designed to provide practical teaching

experiences and functional tools to adolescents in special education

programs. It addresses the physical, emotional, and safety aspects of

sexuality education; encourages parent and family involvement; and includes

a section on preparing community-based sexuality education programs. Lesson

plans cover relationships, communication, avoiding exploitation, anatomy,

reproduction, sexually transmitted diseases, and AIDS. The curriculum

includes resource lists, guidelines for answering students' questions,

recommended audiovisuals, teacher preparation suggestions, and masters for

all transparencies and student handouts. 1991, 301 pp., $40.00 plus 10

percent postage and handling.

Family Planning Publications, Seattle-King County Department of Public

Health, 110 Prefontaine Place South, #500, Seattle, WA 98104; 206-296-4672.

The GYN Exam Handbook: An Illustrated Guide to the Gynecological

Examination for Women with Special Needs

Maria Olivia Taylor

This curriculum takes students through the process of a routine gynecologic

examination and provides the opportunity to understand the procedure with

comfort and confidence, while easing anxiety and promoting responsible

female health care. The program includes an illustrated handbook and a

two-part video. Part 1 is an uninterrupted demonstration of the

examination. Part 2 discusses scheduling an appointment, the breast

examination, and the pelvic examination. 1991, 103 pp., two videos, $129.00.

James Stanfield Company, PO Box 41058, Santa Barbara, CA 93140;

800-421-6534.

JOURNALS/NEWSLETTERS

Connections: The Newsletter of the National Center for Youth with

Disabilities

National Center for Youth with Disabilities, University of Minnesota, Box

721, 420 Delaware Street SE, Minneapolis, MN 55455-0392; 800-333-6293.

CYDLINE Reviews: Issues in Sexuality for Adolescents with Chronic

Illness and Disabilities

National Center for Youth with Disabilities, University of Minnesota, Box

721, 420 Delaware Street SE, Minneapolis, MN 55455-0392; 800-333-6293.

Disability, Pregnancy and Parenthood International

Auburn Press, 9954 South Walnut Terrace, #201, Palos Hills, IL 60465.

The Disability Rag & ReSource

The Disability Rag & ReSource, PO Box 145, Louisville, KY 40201;

502-459-5343 (phone, fax, TDD).

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________________________________________________________________

Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:30:48 -0700 (PDT)

From: "A. G. McLaren" <amclaren@UVic.CA>

Subject: Re: Info on Albert Moll

I don't think there is an English translation of Moll. At least neither

the Kinsey nor the Harvard libraries list any.

Angus McLaren

________________________________________________________________

Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:43:33 -0700

From: Karen Duder <kduder@UVic.CA>

Subject: Re: Wheelchairs (addendum)

An addendum, concerning staring and asking questions:

In the interests of discussion...

Isn't pretending not to see a wheelchair rather like saying to someone of

another race, "Oh, I don't see you as ....I think of you as a human being,

just like me."? That is to say, isn't it the ignoring of difference, the

erasure of individuality?

Comments, anyone?

Karen



________________________________________________________________

From: "Donna Larsen" <ladydonna85@hotmail.com>

Subject: Re: New members/Introductions/Research Interests register

Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:54:45 PDT

Well hello fellow academic leatherdyke, nice to meet you, and thank you for

the support. I have to say that I was a bit baffled about Nicky's post

myself. I am proud of who I am and what I have done, and even more excited

about where I am headed. If it is the validaty of the post that Nicky is

concerned about. I can assure you that is who I really am. I love that my

life has been different than what every one thinks is normal, or what life

"should" be. Finally Nicky thank you for giving me the oppourtunity to

think about my life and reafirm for myself how wonderfull it has really

been.



________________________________________________________________

From: "Donna Larsen" <ladydonna85@hotmail.com>

Subject: Re: New members

Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:59:49 PDT

I was not implying that everyone had to devulge their orientation, or sex

history. It is just that Mine is a large part of who I am, and a lot of the

reason I am choosing the academic road I am. I decided that a very honest

introduction about who I am was something I wanted to share with everyone.

I don't think it was misplaced.



_______________________________________________________________

From: "Donna Larsen" <ladydonna85@hotmail.com>

Subject: Re: New members

Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 08:00:48 PDT

Thank you to everyone who has supported me.



________________________________________________________________

Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:11:12 +0100

From: cristina santos <cristina@fe.uc.pt>

Subject: Re: Wheelchairs (addendum)

Hi everyone. There's a portuguese sociologist (Boaventura Sousa Santos) who

sustains that we should be equal whenever differences inferiorize us, and

we should be different whenever equality eliminates our own individuality.

I believe we're all different and alike at the same time. Therefore, what

really matters is our acceptance and deep respect for any form of

diversity, as long as it dos not desregard the freedom of everybody else.

In this sense, I'm not sure if a wheelchair would be so important in the

definition of self-identity. My evaluation on others depend much more on

other aspects such as racism, sexism or homophobia.

What do you think?

Cris



________________________________________________________________

From: "Donna Larsen" <ladydonna85@hotmail.com>

Subject: Re: dodgy sexuality

Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 08:55:13 PDT

I am not sure how to find any related academic theories yet. Though I would

be very interested to. I can recommend some great books mainly written by

intelligent leather people who mainly describe what Sadomasochism is and is

not for people seeking to enter into a relationship them selves. Race

Bannon wrote one that is mainly geared towards couples but is relevant for

anyone called "Learning the Ropes." Jay Wiseman also did a workbook type

of how to called "SM 101."

A group of students at the University of Washington also began a sex

positive organization called "Society for human sexuality" It has since

broken away from UW but has become mainly a web site that has many papers,

they may have some of those theories and referrals for almost every aspect

of sexuality there is. There URL is http://www.sexuality.org/. After going

to there site to get the URL I stand corrected and notice that they are

still holding workshops as well. They also have a daughter chapter in San

Francisco. I hope all this helps.



________________________________________________________________

From: "Donna Larsen" <ladydonna85@hotmail.com>

Subject: Re: Info on Albert Moll

Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:07:06 PDT



I would be interested in this work also. In my Human Sexuality class last

fall we had to look up five scientists who studied sexology and write a

paragraph on them. I read about Albert Moll, I was facinated with him, but

have not had a chance to learn more about him or his work.



________________________________________________________________

From: MZink@webtv.net (M Zink)

Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:51:28 -0400 (EDT)

Subject: Re: Wheelchairs

thanks mario:+)



________________________________________________________________ From: "Lesley Hall" <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>

Subject: Re: "dodgy sexuality": does it have a history?

Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 18:52:54 +0100

Are there any historical studies of sexual variations - apart from of

orientation and how this has been understood, policed, experienced? I don't

know of any and my mind was turned to this topic - what people in particular

historical contexts consider 'kinky' but doable, and things which are quite

unthinkable - by the prostitution chapter in R Trumbach's _Sexuality and

Gender in Enlightenment London_. Most bought sex was apparently about

'straight', man/woman, man on top sex but there were various 'refinements' -

flagellation (this was England, after all), 'postures' performed by the

women, two women at once, group sex, and a very few instances of more

one-off type fetishes. Oral and anal sex fairly rare, except in the pricier

'bagnios'. He cites Laurence Stone's article on a libertine group having

group sex (fairly limited variations on) and flagellant orgies in Norwich in

the 1700s. Also, on this theme, I heard a good paper at a conference on

Broadmoor (criminal lunatic asylum) inmates in the later C19th, in which a

letter from an inmate was quoted, which dealt with a fairly elaborate

homosexual sado-masochistic, dominance/submission fantasy scenario. (The

innocent party to whom it was sent - in response to a newspaper ad in search

of employment - informed the police.)

Have there been sexual practices which are even more concealed than

'normal' ones, so we can't say anything about them in a historical sense -

or are these also culturally mediated? There is a paper by a Swedish

historian on bestiality in Sweden in the C18th which included some

cross-cultural material to suggest that there were differences within Europe

(even among agrarian communities) of practice and attitudes towards.

Questions, rather than answers!

Lesley

Lesley Hall

lesleyah@primex.co.uk

website http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah



________________________________________________________________

From: "Lesley Hall" <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>

Subject: Re: Wheelchairs (addendum)

Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 18:39:29 +0100

Karen Duder asks

>Isn't pretending not to see a wheelchair rather like saying to someone of

>another race, "Oh, I don't see you as ....I think of you as a human being,

>just like me."? That is to say, isn't it the ignoring of difference, the

>erasure of individuality?

On the other hand, how would a person in a wheelchair feel about individuals

who specifically eroticise 'people in wheelchairs' (I'm sure they must

exist) - which is perhaps the reverse of this? Edward Carpenter somewhere in

_Love's Coming of Age_ takes an optimistic spin on the kind of cataloguing

of fetishes being undertaken by Krafft-Ebing, to suggest that everyone is

desirable to someone, somewhere - but I think he may be a bit

over-optimistic that the desire would necessarily be reciprocal.

Lesley

Lesley Hall

lesleyah@primex.co.uk

website http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah

________________________________________________________________

Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:56:59 EST

From: markin@patriot.net

Subject: Re: Wheelchairs

> little things let alone sex. Anyway, thanks once again for being the

> only one brave enough to reply to my question about sex and wheelchairs

> :+)

I'm not certain what courage has to do with this. Histsex deals with the

history of sexuality and perceptions of sexuality, not the present-day

problems of people with disabilities. If no answers were forthcoming,

perhaps it's simply because you asked the wrong people.

That said, I did the same sort of search Karen Duder did on AltaVista,

using +sexuality +disability (and then eliminated several sex terms to

eliminate most of the porn sites that inevitably popped up; nothing

against porn sites, per se, but they aren't helpful in this situation).

There are a great many sites out there. Just picking up a few:

http://www.realtime.net/austinrapecrisis/HTML/psac-lst.htm

Resource list: sexuality and disability

http://www.siecus.org/pubs/biblio/bibs0009.html

Annotated bibliography (this is the one Ms Duder discovered; btw, in

reference to a later statement: Java is a cross-platform computer

language that had nothing to do with the binary attachment in which she

originally sent the bibliography)

http://www.sexualhealth.com/Disability/sci.htm

Various articles on sexuality issues

http://www.goaskalice.columbia.edu/

Go Ask Alice -- nice site where you can ask questions; little there as yet

about sexuality and disabilities, but the answers "Alice" gives seem very

sound, so that's one place that'd be worth looking at

If you run similar searches, changing the search terms slightly (the Web

is much handicapped by not being truly keyword searchable -- one has to

second-guess what terms people might use), you'll come up with even more.

It's always best to do your own searches, in the final analysis, since

you're the only one who knows *exactly* what you're hoping to find.

Good luck.

Mario Rups

markin@patriot.net



________________________________________________________________

Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 23:33:52 -0500 (EST)

From: julie <julthoma@indiana.edu>

Subject: Another new subscriber...

I've been an avid reader of this list for the past month and thought it

was time I shun my voyeuristic tendencies and introduce myself...

My name is Julie Thomas. I'm an Nth year PhD student at Indiana

University. Although my PhD is in Russian History, I am serving as a

Visiting Lecturer in the Gender Studies Department. My diss is in the

proposal stage, and will focus on birth control research in Soviet Russia

in the 1920s and 1930s. The diss will be a cross-cultural study of the

United States and USSR (and perhaps Germany?) and how birth control

scientists and information moved between these nations.

I've been working as a research assistant this summer for Judith Allen -

her newest text will focus on the Kinsey era. Fortunately, that means I

have had the opportunity to spend most of the summer working in the Kinsey

Archives! FYI, I would like to offer a response to the discussion about

the availability of the Moll in translation. Although the Kinsey on-line

catalog is extensive, there is a great deal of material that has not yet

been cataloged. This will, hopefully, be corrected soon.... But, in the

meantime, I have been "stumbling onto" some incredible documents and

collections in my work... I'll make a point of looking for the Moll.

I'm enjoying the discussion list immensely - if anyone has done any work

in my area OR if there are any upcoming conferences, please contact me!

Nice meeting you all!

Julie Thomas



;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)



JULIE L. THOMAS

Visting Lecturer

Gender Studies Department

Indiana University

Bloomington IN 47405

GENDER STUDIES Course Website: http://indiana.edu/~gens

PERSONAL HOME PAGE: http://php.indiana.edu/~julthoma/

Ph.D. Candidate, Russian History and Gender Studies

(-; (-; (-; (-; (-; (-; (-; (-; (-;



________________________________________________________________

Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 21:37:47 -0700

From: Karen Duder <kduder@UVic.CA>

Subject: Lesbian history in Australasia

Histsex:For historians of sexuality - http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah

Does anyone on the list know of any brand new work being published on

lesbian history in New Zealand or Australia? I've rather lost touch since

leaving NZ 7 years ago and would like to get a sense of the state of the

field "down under", but web searches have revealed almost nothing. Any

references you could provide would be most helpful.

Thanks,

Karen

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Karen Duder PhD Programme

Department of History Email kduder@uvic.ca

University of Victoria Dept. Phone (250) 721-7382

P.O. Box 3045 Dept. Fax (250) 721-8772

Victoria, B.C. V8W 3P4

CANADA

"Any measurement must take into account the position of the observer.

There is no such thing as measurement absolute, there is only

measurement relative. Relative to what is an important part of the

question." Jeanette Winterson, _Gut Symmetries_

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



________________________________________________________________

Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 22:15:22 -0700

From: Jack Kolb <kolb@ucla.edu>

Subject: Re: Info on Albert Moll

>Histsex:For historians of sexuality - http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah

>

>I don't think there is an English translation of Moll. At least neither

>the Kinsey nor the Harvard libraries list any.

>

>Angus McLaren

Nor does (a quick search of) the University of California (MELVYL) system.

German copies are available, but I'm sure you know that.

Jack Kolb

Dept. of English, UCLA

kolb@ucla.edu



>

________________________________________________________________

Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:10:20 +0200

From: Gert Hekma <hekma@pscw.uva.nl>

Subject: Re: Info on Albert Moll

Nekrosadismus

(in: Albert Moll, ed, Handbuch der Sexualwissenschaften, Leipzig: Vogel 1912.

Part (Hauptabschnitt) 7, pp. 605-742, Havelok [sic] Ellis und Dr. Albert

Moll, Die Funktionsstörungen des Sexuallebens (functional disorders of sex

life), ch. I, Psychopathia sexualis, ch. II Neuropathia sexualis; in ch I

4th subchapter "Psychologie der sexuellen Perversionen" A. Erotischer

Symbolismus a. Fetischismus b. Bestialität, c. Algolagnie (Sadismus und

Masochismus), d. Exhibitionismus (B is on homosexuality).

In I A c we find the following remarks:

(p. 642) "Necrophilia or vampirism, the sexual preference for corpses, is a

phenomenon that often is considered to belong under sadism. In such cases,

however, no pain is inflicted, thus it does not really belong to sadism or

masochism." Perhaps it belongs to algolagnia in its broader definition, or

to erotic fetischism. In many cases, inborn degeneration and

feeblemindedness are present. Such men "are often (p. 643) rejected by

women, and their recourse to corpses is nearly a kind of masturbation,

similar to bestiality. The cases in which the corpse is not only abused

(geschändet), but also mutilated, as in the well known case of Sergeant

BERTRAND, have been named Nekrosadismus. Here, however, doesn't exist

sadism in a restricted sense. The mutilation is done to augment the

excitement (Gemütserregung). Such cases are very abnormal." (end of the

algolagnia-section). The topic is not to be found in the index of the book,

and there seems to be no other mention of the topic.

Sergeant Bertrand violated several women's corpses in 1848 in Paris, his

case is discussed in the famous article of C.F.Michéa in the Union Médical

(July 17, 1849) where Michéa proposes for the first time an explanation of

sexual perversion (specifically "philopédie", predecessor of homosexuality)

in terms of an innate desire.

Nekrosadismus is also mentioned in the later editions of Krafft-Ebing's

Psychopathia sexualis (not the 5th, but certainly the 14th edition), in

connection with the same Bertrand. Who invented the term?



________________________________________________________________

From: "Donna Larsen" <ladydonna85@hotmail.com>

Subject: Re: "dodgy sexuality": does it have a history?

Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 08:26:36 PDT

Sounds like a great research paper idea. The Leather community has been

working to build up a museum. They have been collecting things for it for a

while and I think they may have papers, or historical notes. It is the

Leather Archives and Museum, they are based in Chicago. Their web site is

http://www.leatherarchives.org/.



________________________________________________________________

From: manohar@sangama.ilban.ernet.in

Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 09:20:50

Subject: Introduction

I am Elavarthi Manohar, 28 year old bisexual male from Bangalore,

India. I have been a social activist for the last 13 years working

with issues like gender, environment, education, HIV/AIDS,

LGBT (gay/lesbian/bisexual/trangered) rights, peace, communalism

etc.. I am active in LGBT rights movement for the last 5 years.

I am in the process of setting up a documentation centre on sexuality

in Bangalore, India. As an activist I am interesed in sexuality

studies.

Manohar



________________________________________________________________

From: "Donna Larsen" <ladydonna85@hotmail.com>

Subject: Re: Introduction

Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 19:39:42 PDT



You might consider getting in touch with the folks at gaybc.com. They may

be willing to do an interview with you that would be broadcast over the

internet. This would be a facinating interview and would get the word out

about your search. This may bring those who have information for you

forward. Good luck in your facinating search.

________________________________________________________________

From: ddh@arts.gla.ac.uk

Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:23:09 +0000

Subject: Re: "Dodgy Sex": The view from southern Russia



In response to Lesley's questions about the unspeakable or undo-able in

sexual acts, I offer the following list of perversions for the use of psychiatrists

and police bureaucrats issued in January, 1974, by the chief of police in

Krasnodar, southern Russia (USSR, as was). Russians borrow a lot of foreign

terminology, but its penetration does vary...!

Dan Healey

Glasgow

"Temporary Instruction about the organization of the observation and

registration of patients with socially dangerous actions in their histories"

[...]

Taking this into account the revised "control card" is divided into a range of

special points, and since after 1971with the implementation of the international

classification of illnesses, traumas and causes of death (8th revised version),

which has previously little-used terminology, this bulletin provides a short

description of the kinds of perversions and the peculiarities of completing points

21-24. In point 21 indicate whether there is sexual perversion (Yes. No. Not

known). Where one exists, indicate the type of perversion:

1. Homosexuality. Lesbianism. Pederasty...

2. Fetishism...

3. Pedophilia...

4. Transvestism...

5. Exhibitionism...

6. Other sexual perversions, including: a) masochism...b) sadism...c)[space

left blank by typist](is not translated, but means something like "dauber") - a

type of perversion, in which people satisfy sexual desire by rubbing the sexual

member (clothed or naked) against some part of the female body. These acts

take place in overfilled train carriages, crowds,

etc...d)bestiality...e)polliutsionizm - this type of perversion consists of the

arousal of the desire to be soiled, insulted by a person of the opposite sex, and

in extreme cases even to smell ... their feces...f) triolizm or pluralizm. This type

of sexual perversion consists of the having present a 3rd party during the sex

act and the viewing of other persons during sex. Sometimes a woman is

required to have sex with another man while the perverted person watches to

gain sexual pleasure. g) necrophilia...h) pigmalionizm - sexual perversion when

sexual arousal is evoked by sight of naked statutes or naked women in

paintings. Sexual outlet can be in form of masturbation or even result in harm to

the works of art (pouring ink, soiling, attacking it)...

"CONFIRMED" - Chief Regional Medical Officer, V. Kurochkin

"CONFIRMED" - Director of the Administration of Internal Affairs [police], V.

Miliakov. 2 January 1974. Krasnodar.

Source: Sergei Shcherbakov, "Sotsial'nye posledstviia prebyvaniia

golubykh v nevole," Gay, Slaviane! , no. 1 (1993): 69-73.

Dan Healey

Wellcome Unit for the History of Medicine

School of History and Archaeology

University of Glasgow

5 University Gardens

Glasgow G12 8QQ

Tel. (0141) 330-5553

Fax (0141) 330-3511

ddh@arts.gla.ac.uk



________________________________________________________________

From: The Fawcett Library <fawcett@lgu.ac.uk>

Subject: Re: "Dodgy Sex": The view from southern Russia

Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:49:10 +0100 (British Summer Time)

Scuse the facetiousness, but the news from Krasnodar

reminded me of the roughly contemporary "Radio Armenia"

anekdot (in the days when Tchaikovsky's private life was

somewhat glossed over):

Q.: Is it true that Tchaikovsky was a homosexual?

A.: Yes, but this is not the only reason we revere his

memory.

David Doughan, Reference Librarian

The Fawcett Library (The National Library of Women)

fawcett@lgu.ac.uk

http://www.lgu.ac.uk/fawcett/main.htm

Phone: 0171 320 1189

Fax: 0171 320 1188

_________________

"Behind every great man

there is a surprised woman" (Maryon Pearson)



________________________________________________________________

Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:01:29 -0400 (EDT)

From: Robin Brownlie <brownlie@YorkU.CA>

Subject: Re: Wheelchairs (addendum)

OK, while we're having this very useful discussion, I'm going to jump in

with a dumb question of my own. I see women around town in wheelchairs,

and I'm not much for asking out women in bars (something I've never really

done, too chicken), but I certainly do notice them and I have found some

attractive, if that's some kind of an answer to your question. Here's my

dumb question: what is the best way to handle the height difference? When

I'm standing up and talking to a woman in a wheelchair, she almost always

has to crane her neck like crazy to talk to me. But if I squat down, I

feel as though I'm patronizing her. Does anyone have some good advice on

this issue?

(About the access question, you've raised some really good questions I

haven't thought about -- I have no vehicle, go everywhere by bike, and

Toronto's transit system is not at all good for wheelchairs. If I asked a

woman in a wheelchair home, I'd have to meet her there while she took

WheelTrans, and then I'd have to carry her into the house. Given my size,

this would quite likely be impossible). This is all hypothetical because

I'm in a monogamous relationship.

Robin



________________________________________________________________

From: MZink@webtv.net (M Zink)

Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:07:25 -0400 (EDT)

Subject: Re: Wheelchairs (addendum)

I am 32 and i am a single woman in a wheelchair, and i like it when a

man comes down to eye level with me, it shows he cares enough to

understand that it is ok to look me in the eye instead of me looking him

in the croch if you know what i mean, and thanks for asking the question

anything else i can answer?



________________________________________________________________

Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:19:01 -0400 (EDT)

From: Robin Brownlie <brownlie@YorkU.CA>

Subject: Re: Wheelchairs (addendum)

Thanks for the response to my question about getting down to eye level. I

know you aren't speaking for every person in a wheelchair, but it's still

helpful to hear how it is for you. I don't have as many opportunities as I

would like to figure out how to get past my own ableism.

Robin



________________________________________________________________

From: "Lesley Hall" <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>

Subject: Re: "Dodgy Sex": The view from southern Russia

Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 20:10:08 +0100



Among Dan Healey's list of the above:

'6. Other sexual perversions, including: a) masochism...b)

sadism...c)[space

left blank by typist](is not translated, but means something like

"dauber") - a

type of perversion, in which people satisfy sexual desire by rubbing the

sexual

member (clothed or naked) against some part of the female body. These acts

take place in overfilled train carriages, crowds,

etc...'

This would be in English 'frottage', practised by a 'frotteur' (interesting

the way English leaves these filthy foreign habits (??) in the obscurity of

a foreign tongue).

The list reads like something someone compiled from the chapter headings in

Psychopathia Sexualis.

Lesley

Lesley Hall

lesleyah@primex.co.uk

website http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah



________________________________________________________________

From: "Lesley Hall" <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>

Subject: The Ancient Greeks revisited

Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 20:20:41 +0100

Article in today's Guardian, on line at=20

http://www.newsunlimited.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,76670,00.html

by Ben Rogers Deviance, if you like=20

Sexuality is made, not given. Ask the ancient Greeks=20

=20

=20

suggests that 'A closer reading of Vrissimtzis's 90-page study should =

make even the non-expert wary'.=20

Lesley Hall

lesleyah@primex.co.uk

website http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah

________________________________________________________________

Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:34:03 -0500

From: "Mark D. Faram" <mfaram@earthlink.net>

Subject: Re: The Ancient Greeks revisited



Did the greeks practice circumcision and is there any record of the

practice in ancient greek lit? I know the ancient Egyptians did. How

about the Romans?

Mark

________________________________________________________________

From: JNKATZ1@aol.com

Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:53:58 EDT

Subject: "Ben Rogers is straight "

Interesting that Ben Rogers, the author of that ballanced essay in The

Guardian, feels that he has to end by identifying his sexual orientation,

against the presumed judgment of many readers that anyone writing a

reasonable piece on homosexuality must be one of the tribe.

Jonathan Ned Katz



________________________________________________________________

Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:23:52 +1000

From: Hera Cook <dcoo8738@mail.usyd.edu.au>

Subject: Russian birth control and British sex (and other objects of desire not)



Hi,

I knew a woman named Fran Bernstein who did a good Ph.D on sex

education in the USSR in the 1920s. I know she covered a fair amount of

birth control material. I met her at the Wellcome institute and

unfortunately then lost touch with her. You could probably find a

forwarding address for her from them. If you do please give her my

email.

You might also find my thesis helpful. It won't be available for a few

months but it is from Sussex University and the title is 'The Long

Sexual Revolution, British women, sex and contraception in the twentieth

century.' As I use the birth control research done in the UK in this

period a lot I do also talk about the researchers. I would also be happy

to answer further questions if I was able to do so.

Hera



________________________________________________________________

Subject: Greek History Revisited - circumcision

Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 18:23:25 -0800

From: "andrei-f" <andrei-f@goplay.com>



The fossil record is not clear on this matter, but K. J. Dover has an

illustration in _Greek Homosexuality_ showing a fight between

Herakles and the Egyptians, where the Egyptians are deprecatingly

shown with large cocks, and circumcised (unlike Hercules). On p.129

Dover discusses the issue, and quotes Herodotos, who plainly says

that only the Egyptians and their emulators practice circumcision,

and further declares it to be an unesthetic custom.

Andrei Foldes



>Did the greeks practice circumcision and is there any record of the

practice in ancient greek lit? I know the ancient Egyptians did. How

about the Romans?

Mark

________________________________________________________________

Subject: Re: "Dodgy Sex": Behavior looking for terminology!

From: Gillian Rodger <grodger@worldnet.att.net>

Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 02:37:28 +0000

My favorite example of the unspeakable comes from the National Police

Gazette (August 18,1883:3). Its not so much "unspeakable" as an example of a

very clear knowledge of what's going on with insufficient terminology to

describe it. This newspaper was amazingly snide on this topic in the early

1880s:

Nearly every farmer can tell a story about a hen's changing onto a rooster.

First she ceases to lay. Then her cluck changes to a piping crow. Then the

notes grow broader and louder. Next her wattles change color and her comb

grows. Last of all she puts forth spurs and the gorgeous plumes which

distinguish a rooster's tail. People who have the honor to be on intimate

terms with Christine Nillson [very famous opera singer of the period]

pretend to observe a similar evolution out of one sex into the other on the

part of the Swedish Sappho. She began by growing cold and indifferent to the

courtship and the addresses of men. Her next step in development was to bve

ardently interested in women. Pretty soon she never appeared in public

without a female companion, and after the death of her husband in Charenton

asylum adopted a mate of her own sex as a permanent institution. When she

came to America last year it was generally noticed that her voice had

broadened and deepened in its lower register to a tenor quality. To crown

the analogy the new photographs taken of her in London show her with her

hair cut like a man's and parted on one side. It is barely possible that the

last stage of all will be adoption of the male costume, a la Ella Wesner

[famous American male impersonator of the period].

If anyone is interested in the Police Gazette's reporting on such matters

let me know. I have plenty languishing in my files that I will never get to.

Gillian Rodger



________________________________________________________________

From: "Donna Larsen" <ladydonna85@hotmail.com>

Subject: Re: "Dodgy Sex": The view from southern Russia

Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 20:02:48 PDT

That is quite a list. How many of those items have now been removed from

the list or changed? How has the break up of the Soviet union changed sexual

attitudes or freedoms? Are there Professional Dominats? How often are they

raided, and what has happened in those cases? How hard is it to go through a

sex change in Russia? Is it easier to go from male to female, or vice

versa? Just curious.

________________________________________________________________

Subject: FW: Re: "Dodgy Sex": Behavior looking for terminology!

From: Gillian Rodger <grodger@worldnet.att.net>

Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:51:56 +0000

Sorry, I sent this privately but it bounced back as undeliverable.

----------

From: Gillian Rodger <grodger@worldnet.att.net>

To: "David F. Greenberg" <dg4@is3.nyu.edu>

Subject: Re: "Dodgy Sex": Behavior looking for terminology!

David,

I don't have the entire newspaper I'm afraid, just various clippings

photocopied as I was cruising through about 60 years of PGs. The good news

is that the NYPL Research Library at 42nd & 5th has a pretty good run of

Police Gazettes on microfilm. Their holdings are complete for the period

after 1870 but patchy before that--I think most of the 1860s are missing.

The PGs is a truly wonderful resource and I am always surprised its not used

more.

Gillian Rodger

----------

>From: "David F. Greenberg" <dg4@is3.nyu.edu>

>To: Gillian Rodger <grodger@worldnet.att.net>

>Subject: Re: "Dodgy Sex": Behavior looking for terminology!

>Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 23:36:22 -0400 (EDT)

>

>I would be interested in those Police Gazettes, not only for issues of

>gender identity and lesbianism, but for treatment of crime issues as well.

>(I'm a criminologist as well as a sex researcher). How much space do they

take up, in all? - David Greenberg

>- David Greenberg, Sociology Department, New York University, 269 Mercer

>St., Rm. 402, New York, NY 10003

>



________________________________________________________________

From: "Chris Willis" <chris@chriswillis.freeserve.co.uk>

Subject: The Importance of Being Earnest

Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:48:25 +0100

Hi!

Many thanks to everyone who replied to my queries about 19C homosexual slang

a few months ago. I

I've just been told about another very interesting bit of 1890s slang, but

I'm not sure how reliable the information is. A colleague had heard that in

the1890s "Ernest" was a slang term for what we'd now call a rent-boy, and

that was why Wilde wrote so much word-play on the name in "The

Importance..."

I'm intrigued by this - it adds a whole new layer of meaning to the play,

particularly to the character who has a secret existence as "Ernest".

Trouble is, I can't help feeling it's too good to be true! It sounds like

something that might have been made up after Wilde's trial. Has anyone else

heard this?

All the best

Chris

=========================================

Chris Willis

English Dept

Birkbeck College

Malet Street

London WC1E 7HX

Chris@chriswillis.freeserve.co.uk

http://www.chriswillis.freeserve.co.uk/

=========================================



________________________________________________________________

From: ddh@arts.gla.ac.uk

Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 18:40:24 +0000

Subject: Re: "Dodgy Sex": The view from southern Russia

Replies to Donna from Dan:

Send reply to: "Histsex:For historians of sexuality" <histsex@listbot.com>

From: "Donna Larsen" <ladydonna85@hotmail.com>

To: histsex@listbot.com

Subject: Re: "Dodgy Sex": The view from southern Russia

Date sent: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 20:02:48 PDT

> Histsex:For historians of sexuality - http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah

>

> That is quite a list. How many of those items have now been removed from

> the list or changed?

I don't know since this hasn't been a line I've been following. I just happened to

be reading it when Lesley began the conversation about "Dodgy Sex". What I

find striking is that medical and legal officials during the "era of stagnation" and

in the back of beyond, were resorting to a list composed internationally to

define perversions. It would be easy to find out by examining the current

international protocols on the nomenclature of diseases and causes of death,

about which I know little except that they have been around since the turn of

the century and get renewed ever decade or so. As far as what is being used

inside Russia now - Foucault has been translated, Krafft-Ebing has been

reprinted, Freud is enjoying a publishing boom: it's pretty anarchic.

How has the break up of the Soviet union changed sexual

> attitudes or freedoms?

Think of Spain after Franco, subtract the Catholic faith, add unregulated

capitalism, and disillusionment with "socialism" and "the emancipation of

women", combine with a high degree of ambient violence... and you end up in a

bar in central Moscow not far from the old KGB headquarters called "The

Hungry Duck". The HD was recently closed but in the two years or so it

operated, it had a "ladies' night": all-you-could-drink for $1 for women only, plus

a succession of male strippers, until 9pm when "drunken, horny" men were

admitted and the result was brawling, injuries and rape. (for a description, see

Time Out's Guide to Moscow, 1999). It was located in the former ballroom of a

"House of Culture" owned by an artists' union. Before the HD, the same

premises housed a wonderful gay bar, "Mask", which used the ballroom with its

1950s crystal chandeliers as a fabulous dancehall playing Russian techno, for

an almost entirely non-foreign clientele of all genders. Those were the days...

Are there Professional Dominats? - what are these?

How often are they

> raided, and what has happened in those cases? How hard is it to go through a

> sex change in Russia? Is it easier to go from male to female, or vice

> versa?

On sex-changing in Russia, check out David Tuller's very readable:

David Tuller, Cracks in the Iron Closet: Travels in Gay & Lesbian

Russia (Boston & London: Faber & Faber, 1996).

My forthcoming book will have some new material from the archives on 1920s

Soviet attempts and demands for sex-changes (in both directions). I would not

recommend submitting to the knife under Soviet or post-Soviet medical

conditions. The ethical shortcuts alone are scary enough.



Just curious.

>

Dan Healey

Wellcome Unit for the History of Medicine

School of History and Archaeology

University of Glasgow

5 University Gardens

Glasgow G12 8QQ

Tel. (0141) 330-5553

Fax (0141) 330-3511

ddh@arts.gla.ac.uk



________________________________________________________________

From: ddh@arts.gla.ac.uk

Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 18:40:24 +0000

Subject: Re: Russian birth control and British sex (and other objects of desire not)

About Fran Bernstein's PhD thesis:

Frances Bernstein, "What Everyone Should Know About Sex:

Gender, Sexual Enlightenment, and the Politics of Health in

Revolutionary Russia, 1918-1931" (PhD dissertation, Columbia

University, 1998).

You can get a copy over the web for about $25 on:

www.umi.com

I highly recommend Fran's work!

Dan Healey

Wellcome Unit for the History of Medicine

School of History and Archaeology

University of Glasgow

5 University Gardens

Glasgow G12 8QQ

Tel. (0141) 330-5553

Fax (0141) 330-3511

ddh@arts.gla.ac.uk



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Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:15:26 EST

From: markin@patriot.net

Subject: Re: "Dodgy Sex": The view from southern Russia

Histsex:For historians of sexuality - http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah

> type of perversion, in which people satisfy sexual desire by rubbing the

> sexual

> member (clothed or naked) against some part of the female body. These acts

...

> This would be in English 'frottage', practised by a 'frotteur' (interesting

Although frottage isn't just male member against female body -- can be

male member against male body, of course. But I guess that's already

covered under homosexuality. (And I wish people wouldn't keep equating

being gay with being a pederast.)

> the way English leaves these filthy foreign habits (??) in the obscurity of

> a foreign tongue).

Reminds me of the old Loeb facing translations, where the dicy passages in

Greek on the left-hand page would be translated into Latin on the

right-hand page, and the dicy Latin on the left into Italian on the right.

It sure made it easier to find where such passages were -- just read along

in the English, and where the language changed, bingo, there it was. It

also made for a very interesting specialized vocabulary in three

languages!

> Lesley

> Lesley Hall







Mario Rups

markin@patriot.net



________________________________________________________________ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:15:31 EST

From: markin@patriot.net

Subject: Re: "Dodgy Sex": Behavior looking for terminology!

Histsex:For historians of sexuality - http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah

> If anyone is interested in the Police Gazette's reporting on such matters

> let me know. I have plenty languishing in my files that I will never get to.

>

> Gillian Rodger

I, for one, would be delighted.

Thus far I have not wanted to introduce myself to this august company,

preferring to lurk in a corner and hope that no one will notice the

interloper ... I do have an academic background, or had one once upon a

time before I got sidetracked and became a librarian, but sexuality was

never my field or even a particular interest.

I am at the moment merely a "civilian" working on a personal research

project. My main interest for present purposes is in the mid to late

1880s, especially London (or England in general) but also the U.S. and

Europe. I joined this list in the hopes of picking up stray snippets

of information just like the above, re: sex, sexuality, attitudes vis a

vis sex / sexuality, and sexual "perversions" of this period, with

emphasis on prostitution, homosexuality (ergo also male prostitution),

and, to a lesser extent, what would later come to be called sadism and

masochism.

Alas, I am too near the beginning of my research to be of much use to the

list ... hence shall probably remain a lurker for most of the time.



Mario Rups

markin@patriot.net



________________________________________________________________

Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:15:33 EST

From: markin@patriot.net

Subject: Re: Maines' martyrdom

> some of which quite clearly aren't! She seems to think that any appliance

> which has the word "vibrate" or "massage" in its name or instructions must

> be a vibrator, even if it's something like a neck and scalp massager. One

> of the devices illustrated looks like a 1940s equivalent of the "Tens"

> machine which is used to treat people with incurable back and neck

> problems - in other words, exactly what the advertisements say it is.

Ah, so that's the "legitimate" use of the Tens machine ... I'd wondered,

but didn't know whom to ask. The only context in I'd ever come across the

thing was CBT. And the only advert I've ever seen was on the web (not

sure I could find it again, though), on a sex "toy" site ... So, it all

depends on what advertisements one finds, although it's easier to find

explicitly sexual ones now than it was in Victorian times.

> All the best

> Chris

Mario Rups

markin@patriot.net



________________________________________________________________

From: "Lesley Hall" <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>

Subject: Re: "Dodgy Sex": The view from southern Russia

Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 20:05:00 +0100



Re the question about transexuals in the former USSR: a few years ago I was

at a small conference in Budapest, along with a number of other individuals

on this list (whose recollections may be clearer than mine!), on

'Civilisation, Sexuality and Social Life in Historical Context: The Hidden

Face of Urban Life'. Among the rather eclectic group of participants were

some sexologists from Kiev in the Ukraine, who gave a paper on 'gender

identity disorders' in the Ukraine within recent decades. The most

interesting thing that I personally recall from this is that the proportion

of female to male transsexuals was more or less the reverse of what it is

stated to be in the USA/Western Europe. There is a 4-page summary of their

presentation in the published conference proceedings: if anyone would be

especially interested I could xerox this and post it to them. (Or you could

try and obtain a copy of the proceedings from the Institute of the History

of Medicine and Social Medicine, Semmelweiss University of Medicine,

Budapest)

Lesley Hall

lesleyah@primex.co.uk

website http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah



________________________________________________________________

From: "Lesley Hall" <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>

Subject: Re: don't

Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 20:06:49 +0100

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Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 20:38:24 +0100

From: Ianthe <ianthe@duende.demon.co.uk>

Subject: Re: The Importance of Being Earnest

In message <005501bef0ad$d567a320$cf2d893e@freeservesignup>, Chris

Willis <chris@chriswillis.freeserve.co.uk> writes

>A colleague had heard that in

>the1890s "Ernest" was a slang term for what we'd now call a rent-boy, and

>that was why Wilde wrote so much word-play on the name in "The

>Importance..."

>

>I'm intrigued by this - it adds a whole new layer of meaning to the play,

>particularly to the character who has a secret existence as "Ernest".

>Trouble is, I can't help feeling it's too good to be true! It sounds like

>something that might have been made up after Wilde's trial. Has anyone else

>heard this?

There is also a resemblance (surely not lost on Wilde and

his circles) to the 'homosexual' precursor terms of

Uranian / Urning / Urningthum. Symonds despised the

macaronic term 'homosexual', preferring Urning and Urningthum

as terms, and it seems likely that Wilde's circle would have

known of the usage and perhaps even used it themselves. The

title 'Love In Earnest' is thus susceptible to further levels

of queer Wildean word-play - spoken it breaks to

'Love-ing Urn(-est)' - which when written could also be re-

arranged as 'Lovest Urning', or perhaps even 'Love Est Urning'

(if the Est has a meaning in Latin, I think it does but am

not sure - can anyone enlighten me ?).

On the foundation of such word-puzzles and queer code-words

it seems a world-wide homosexual/boy-loving poetry-based

underground was evolved, post-Wilde.

I must say they I haven't hear of the word Earnest being a

term for Victorian rent-boys, though.

Other 'homosexual' precursor terms around that time were:

'Greek love'

Invert

Third-sexer

Intersexual

Calamite

Chivalrous

Comrade(s)

'Manly love'

Yours,

--

Ianthe Duende



________________________________________________________________

From: MillerJimE@aol.com

Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 22:25:52 EDT

Subject: Re: "Dodgy Sex": The view from southern Russia

In a message dated 08/27/1999 1:05:36 PM Central Daylight Time,

markin@patriot.net writes:

<< Reminds me of the old Loeb facing translations, where the dicy passages in

Greek on the left-hand page would be translated into Latin on the

right-hand page, and the dicy Latin on the left into Italian on the right.

It sure made it easier to find where such passages were -- just read along

in the English, and where the language changed, bingo, there it was. It

also made for a very interesting specialized vocabulary in three

languages! >>

Also the Ante-Nicene Fathers and the Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers.

Large sections of Clement's Paedagogus never made it into English and the

Latin vocabulary is either very creative or very informative.

Jim Miller



________________________________________________________________

From: "Donna Larsen" <ladydonna85@hotmail.com>

Subject: Re: "Dodgy Sex": The view from southern Russia

Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 20:03:39 PDT

Thanks for all of the great and interesting information. I am always

interested in the sexuality attitudes of other countries.

Professional Dominatrixes are usually women, though I know of a few make

doms in the gay community. They do sadomasochism, usually female domination

for money. They often work in a dungeon. I may have to do a paper in the

near future on the history of this profession. Could be interesting.



________________________________________________________________

Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 15:00:21 +0100 (BST)

From: RM CLEMINSON <R.M.Cleminson@Bradford.ac.uk>

Subject: Re: Inq. Henning Bech



I have read this book and found it extraordinary. Bech's mapping of the

male homosexual as reliant upon modernity and all its trappings is very

elegantly expressed in this book. I have found it very useful in

rethinking how sexual identities, esp. 'deviant' ones, are related to the

form and growth of the city, information highways (eg train stations), and

to the gaze.

It's also a fun read!



******************************

Dr.Richard M. Cleminson

Lecturer in Spanish Studies

Department of Modern Languages

University of Bradford

Bradford, West Yorkshire

BD7 1DP

http://www.expert.brad.ac.uk/r_m_cleminson/

tel: +1274 234595

fax: +1274 235590



________________________________________________________________

From: "Donna Larsen" <ladydonna85@hotmail.com>

Subject: Re: "Dodgy Sex": The view from southern Russia

Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 20:17:12 PDT



I would be very interested in obtaining a copy of the paper on Gender

idenity in the Ukraine. Thanks



________________________________________________________________

Subject: Re: Inq. Henning Bech

Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 09:36:14 -0500

Richard,

I have found Bech useful for his theorization of the forms and dynamics

of acceptable and illicit inter-male looking. I can't undersatnd why the

book has received so little 'word of mouth.' Thoughts?

>I have read this book and found it extraordinary. Bech's mapping of the

>male homosexual as reliant upon modernity and all its trappings is very

>elegantly expressed in this book. I have found it very useful in

>rethinking how sexual identities, esp. 'deviant' ones, are related to the

>form and growth of the city, information highways (eg train stations), and

>to the gaze.

>

>It's also a fun read!



Michael J. Murphy, M.A.

Graduate Student, Dept. of Art History and Archaeology

Washington University, St. Louis

mjmurphy@artsci.wustl.edu

********************************

"And remember darling I don't work before 10:30 and never after 4:30 in

the afternoon."

-Norma Desmond to Cecil B. DeMille in _Sunset

Boulevard_



________________________________________________________________

Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 14:27:00 -0700

From: Sharon Block <sblock@uci.edu>

Subject: Call for Papers: Early Am Sex

Call for Papers

MCEAS/OIEAHC Conference on Sexuality in Early America

March 2001

In the last two decades, the history of sexuality has

emerged as an important and dynamic field of inquiry. By

historicizing matters once understood as universal and

eternal, scholars have connected sexual behaviors and

desires to specific political, social, and economic

contexts. Many have discovered links between this

seemingly private realm of human experience and

broader structures of power. Still others have questioned

the coherence of the category of sexuality itself. With few

exceptions, early American scholars have remained on

the margins of this new field. Mindful of this omission,

the McNeil Center for Early American Studies and the

Omohundro Institute of Early American History and

Culture announce a conference on Sexuality in Early

America, c. 1500-1820. Scheduled for March 2001 in

Philadelphia, the conference aims to examine the

relationship between sexuality (defined broadly to

include desire, behavior, and attitudes) and the conditions

and institutions of early American society (also defined

broadly to include New France, the Caribbean, and the

Spanish borderlands). Successful applicants will be asked

to expand their proposals to thirty pages, and these drafts

will be pre-circulated to all conference participants.

Following the conference and authors' revisions, the

papers will be published in a special issue of the *William

and Mary Quarterly.*

Papers that present fresh theoretical perspectives, cross-

cultural comparisons, or new empirical data are

encouraged. Especially desirable are papers that use such

approaches to challenge current histories of sexuality in

early America. Although there are no set topics for

papers, all papers should directly address sexual

mattersas opposed to the broader issues of gender--in a

context that will enhance our knowledge of early

America. For example, papers might research the

comparative impacts of colonization on European or

Native American sexual behavior; the role of sexuality in

the colonization process; changing images of sexual

bodies; the sexualization of racial categories; the erotic

discourses of discovery, revolution, or early nationhood;

relationships between popular mores and legal or

religious strictures; the rise of regionally distinct patterns

of sexual attitudes or behavior; the economic, familial, or

demographic contexts of changing sexual behaviors;

sexual aesthetics in the visual arts, fashion, or print

culture; the sexual cultures of cities and public spaces;

medical views of sexuality and reproduction; or the

dynamics of bawdy humor. Papers that embrace a more

broadly synthetic approach or question the applicability

of modern concepts of sexuality to early America are also

welcome.

Paper proposals must be postmarked by February 1,

2000. These proposals should include a brief c.v. and a

five-to-ten-page prospectus. The prospectus must explain

the substance of the proposed paper, the sources used,

and how the essay will reassess or enhance our current

understanding of sexuality in early America. Scholars at

all points in their careers are urged to apply. A steering

committee composed of Sharon Block, Kathleen Brown,

Bruce Burgett, Patricia Cline Cohen, Richard Godbeer,

and Martha Hodes will screen proposals and arrange

sessions and commentators. Direct questions to

sblock@uci.edu or kabrown@sas.upenn.edu. Send seven

copies of the proposal to: Sexuality Conference,

OIEAHC, P.O. Box 8781, Williamsburg, VA 23187-

8781.



________________________________________________________________

Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 12:12:39 +1000

From: Hera Cook <dcoo8738@mail.usyd.edu.au>

Subject: re: Ben Rogers is straight

Hi,

OUP USA have just published a reader on _Sexuality_ editted

by Robert Nye. (see below for OUP's description) I talked to him about

the book, and listened to him in a seminar describing the conclusions he

had come to as a result of attempting to provide an overview - Sex, he

thinks is not stable but gender is. That is, he believes, in all

societies at all times, gender has remained stable - though it may not

be connected to biological sex. That is to say that whether heterosexual

or gay, men and women have enacted gender roles in dyadic structures-

much as we know them today.

I do not believe this - however my research interest is in female

sexuality and the dominant sexual culture in twentieth century Britain -

an area and period in which great change did occur.

What interested me in the Ben Roger's article on the Greeks which Ned

Katz comments on, was the following -

The Greeks did not

stigmatise

homosexuality as

such, but they did

stigmatise men who

took a passive or

"womanish" sexual

role. Free citizens

were expected to

dominate their partners

were expected to

dominate their partners -

subordination was

for women or male

slaves, prostitutes

and foreigners.

Obviously there is a whole story about hierarchies/deference etc in the

society as a whole which is being acted out in sexual relations just as

it would be in any other realm of behaviour in this society. However

this is probably the kind of evidence which Nye would take as supporting

his position. George Chauncey's wonderful book _Gay New York_ could also

be taken as supporting this position, I presume.

Is anybody doing relevant research - got comments or opinions on this

issue. I don't intend to start another discussion on a book no one has

read - this is an inquiry about the issue rather than Nye's book.

(Though I have put the OUP web address below for your interest -and if

anyone would email me personally and tell me how to put in live HTML

links I'd be grateful)

For OUP USA description of the book -

http://www.oup-usa.org/docs/0192880195.html

Regards,

Hera



________________________________________________________________

Subject: Re: "Dodgy Sex": Behavior looking for terminology!

From: Gillian Rodger <grodger@worldnet.att.net>

Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 03:52:58 +0000

Hi Mario,

good to see you here (I'm on Victoria too). I'm not sure my files will help

with your interest but you should definitely get your hands on the PG. Look

for the Oscar Wilde tour of the US during the 1880s (can't remember exactly

when and it would take a major excavation of files to find out). Also look

at the way the depiction of a man-about-town changed during the 1880s. The

questionable sexuality of ministers and other clerics was also a favorite

topic.

Of course much of this reflects class-based hostilities. The PG in this

period was very pro-working (white, American-born) man and very anti

middle-class (particularly moral reformers and anyone who threatened to

curtail their leisure and its pleasures). Chauncey's discussion about

working-class leisure patterns and moral reform in Gay New York gives a very

good summary of the reasons for the kinds of hostilities seen in the PG. But

its fascinating to actually seen them first hand.

I'll look through what I have and let you know privately if I find anything

of interest but I mostly have the theatrical pages and then articles on

women passing as men, or, more rarely, men as women. And then some odd

things about "manly" behavior in women.

I cruised through about 30 odd years of the PG and it was well worth it--it

certainly provides a different view of America than one gets from the NYT or

other newspapers.

Cheers,

Gillian

________________________________________________________________ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:19:28 +1000

From: Christopher Forth <Christopher.Forth@anu.edu.au>

Subject: Intro and Copraphagia

Hi, all--

I'm a lecturer in cultural history at the Australian National University

and am working on a study of the male body in France during the Dreyfus

Affair (1894-1906), and have a question about copraphagia as a sexual

"perversion." I came across a juicy but passing reference in Eugen Weber's

_France, Fin de Siècle_, in which the author quotes an author reflecting

upon his contacts with the writer Jean Lorrain. This writer claims that

copraphagia was all the rage among homosexuals in Paris during the 1890s.

As I'm interested in excremental imagery during this period, this sort of

thing is understandably provocative. Does anyone have any suggestions on

how to go about discovering more about this practice at the turn of the

century? I've consulted the standard sexologies, but are there other

sources I should consider? Are there any worthwhile psychoanalytic

materials worth considering?

best,

Chris Forth











***********************

Christopher E. Forth

Department of History

Faculty of Arts

Australian National University

Canberra ACT 0200

Australia

Tel: 02 6249 2717

Fax: 02 6249 4083

http://www.anu.edu./history/index.htm



________________________________________________________________

Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:57:39 +0200

From: Gert Hekma <hekma@pscw.uva.nl>

Subject: Re: queers and transexuals in Russia

re: transexuals in the Ukrain and queers in Russia

The name of the author of the text is Boris Vornik and he has more material

(a small booklet on the sexual history of the Ukrain) on this topic written

in English.

Laura Essig in her book "Queer in Russia" (Durham Duke UP, 1999) has also

fascinating info on transsexuals, she her self posing as a kind of male

person on the cover of the book. She describes how gay men were

criminalised in the former SU, and butchy lesbians were medicalised and

defined as a kind of transexuals.

I found the biography of the Russian gay poet Mikhail Kuzmin that was

published by Harvard or Yale earlier this year very informative on sexual

politics in the Russian Silver Age and the situation in the Soviet Union

immediately afterwards. And Dan Healey's own chapter on Moscow in David

Higgs' (ed) Queer Sites (routledge 1999) offers also abundant, rich info on

gay life in Russia in the 19th and 20th c.

Gert Hekma

A



________________________________________________________________

Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 11:50:54 +0200

From: Gert Hekma <hekma@pscw.uva.nl>

Subject: Re: Intro and Copraphagia

Dear Chris,

there might be a police gazette in France as there was in the US, and there

were police inspectors of the vice squad who wrote their work histories,

f.e. F.Canler, Memoires de Canler, ancien chef de la police de surete,

Paris 1862, and there are more of them. What do you mean by the standard

sexologies, because there are so many also in French from Tardieu to

Brouardel on sex crime, of Garnier on fetichism, to mention a few that

might give info on the topic you are researching. Lacassagne's Archives de

l'anthropologie criminelle might have relevant material.

Gert Hekma

________________________________________________________________

Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 20:32:39 +1000 (EST)

From: mimorris@netspace.net.au (Miranda E Morris)

Subject: Re: The Importance of Being Earnest

Perhaps the play is on earning/urning rent boys

Miranda Morris

mimorris@netspace.net.au

Miranda Morris

mimorris@netspace.net.au



________________________________________________________________

Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:20:50 +0100

From: Ianthe <ianthe@duende.demon.co.uk>

Subject: Re: The Importance of Being Earnest

In message <v01520d01b3ef16600a8c@[210.15.196.36]>, Miranda E Morris

<mimorris@netspace.net.au> writes

>Histsex:For historians of sexuality - http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah

>

>Perhaps the play is on earning/urning rent boys

Ah yes, indeed, that one hadn't occurred to me. "Is he

earning (Urning)?" would be a convenient cover-phrase,

which if challenged could be passed off as a charitable

enquiry by a Victorian philanthropist as to whether or

not a street boy was in employment... :) So perhaps there

was indeed a rent-boy link to the term/word ?

--

Ianthe Duende



________________________________________________________________

Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:33:01 -0400

From: "Mark D. Faram" <mfaram@earthlink.net>

Subject: Intro

Greetings, list,

After reading all the intro posts, I felt it was time to quite lurking in the

shadows and say hello.

I am a journalist who covers the U.S. military. I am interested in gender and

sexual issues in the military. I spent 10 years on active-duty and 5 years in the

reserves, both in all male and mixed-gender units.

I don't cover these issues exclusivley, but I do so when necessary. in 1993, a

story that I broke on the difficulties pregnant women were having in the U.S.

Coast Guard, prompted changes in how that service does performance evaluations on

pregnant women. It was good to see.

Sex and sexuality has played quite a latent role in the military over the

centuries. It has always seemed to be just below the surface. Even with the

military changing as it has, the role of sex and sexuality is still just below

the surface.

Many issues are still there, homosexuality, fraternization, harrassment, many

have had band-aid attempts to fix them. But all in all an interesting topic!

Mark D. Faram



________________________________________________________________

Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 00:09:01 +1000

From: Hera Cook <dcoo8738@mail.usyd.edu.au>

Subject: re gender stability

Hi,

I accidently looked at this again and realised that I haven't said I

respected Robert

Nye and am not intending to simply reject his conclusions on the continuity of

gender.I

think a lot of the evidence can suggest this. The question for me is how else can

this evidence be

read or what other evidence is there?

But, perhaps other historians of sexuality/list members are quite satisfied with

this conclusion

and regard the radical sexual equalitarianism of the 1970s as a brief unreal

flurry, given inappropriate

importance by the fact that some of us lived through it and some - me- grew up

with it.

In passing Robert Nye's book is also quite different to anything else I have

seen. It is intended

primarily for teaching but as he has covered the secondary sources it also

summarises the discipline

as a whole. I found it very interesting to look at.

Hera

________________________________________________________________

From: "Lesley Hall" <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>

Subject: Re: Intro: military question

Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:47:26 +0100

Mark D Faram wrote

>Sex and sexuality has played quite a latent role in the military over the

>centuries. It has always seemed to be just below the surface.

This has certainly played a significant part in debates around venereal

diseases. I have an article forthcoming

'"War always brings it on": sexually-transmitted diseases, the military, and

the civil population in Britain, 1850-1950'

in an edited volume 'Medicine and the Making of Modern Warfare'

but it is a recurrent theme.

Lesley Hall

lesleyah@primex.co.uk

website http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah



________________________________________________________________

Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 08:44:21 +0100

From: Stacy Gillis <stacy.gillis@ukonline.co.uk>

Subject: CFP: "Early Modern Devils Incarnate?" (9/15; NEMLA, 4/7-4/8)

Apologies for the cross-posting but I thought that this could be of use to

some on this list - Stacy

>Delivered-To: stacy.gillis@ukonline.co.uk

>Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 04:05:06 +0100 (BST)

>From: Michael Morgan Holmes <mmorganh@yahoo.co.uk>

>Subject: CFP: "Early Modern Devils Incarnate?" (9/15; NEMLA, 4/7-4/8)

>To: cfp@english.upenn.edu

>Sender: owner-cfp@dept.english.upenn.edu

>

>"DEVILS INCARNATE?"

>Northeast MLA Conference

>Buffalo, NY: 7-8 April 1999

>

>The House of Lords has recently been in quite a flap

>over the dreaded Age of Consent business imposed by

>Brussels. Are Baroness Young's twisted knickers a

>manifestation of a centuries-old British fear and

>loathing of European morality and behaviour?

>

>This panel will provide a forum for research on early

>modern (roughly 1480 to 1789) British representations

>of and attitudes towards European vice. Also welcome

>are papers on British travellers who have returned

>home with a taste for "things" Continental: "un

>diavolo incarnato," Roger Ascham warned long ago....

>

>Please feel welcome to pursue any theoretical lines

>you like, even (gasp) French ones. Papers may focus

>on specific texts, and I would hope that panelists

>would also undertake more general analyses of the

>cultural politics which inform the issues at stake.

>

>300-500 word proposals should be sent to me via snail-

>or e-mail (with the abstract in the body of the

>message rather than as an attachment), by 15 September

>1999. Notification of acceptance will be sent by 1

>October 1999. Feel free to contact me if you have any

>questions. I look forward to encountering your ideas

>and to meeting you in Buffalo next year.

>

>Michael Morgan Holmes

>83 Sorauren Avenue

>Toronto, Ontario M6R 2E1

>Canada

>mmorganh@yahoo.co.uk

>

>For information on NEMLA and the upcoming conference,

>see <http://www.anna-maria.edu/nemla>. Persons whose

>proposals are accepted must be NEMLA members by 1

>November 1999.

>

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>

---------------------------

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http://web.ukonline.co.uk/stacy.gillis/index.htm

The wit of a graduate student is like champagne.

Canadian champagne.

-- Robertson Davies--



________________________________________________________________

Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 07:15:49 -0400 (EDT)

From: Michael Sibalis <msibalis@wlu.ca>

Subject: Re: Intro and Copraphagia

I have read most of the source material on homosexuality in 19th-century

France, and I cannot remember seeing anything that would suggest that

copraphagia was "all the rage" among homosexuals in the 1890's! There

might possibly be something in the Archives d'Anthropologie Criminelle of

the period, which has a lot of source material on perversions, but I

suspect that Chris Forth will have a great deal of trouble finding

anything very specific.

I will take this occasion to introduce myself to the list. I am writing a

book on male homosexuality in Paris in the 18th, 19th and 20th centuries.

I have recently published: "Paris," in _Queer Sites: Gay Urban Histories

since 1600_, edited by David Higgs (Routledge);

"Paris-Babylone/Paris-Sodome: Images of homosexuality in the

nineteenth-century city," in _Images of the City in Nineteenth-Century

France_, edited by John West-Sooby (Boombana Publications); and "Defining

Masculinity in Fin-de-Siecle France: Sexual Anxiety and the Emergence of

the Homosexual," in _Proceedings of the Western Society for French

History, volume 25 (1998).

I would be pleased to hear directly from any members of this list who

might suggest sources that I might have overlooked. I have been mining

the French national archives, the police archives of Paris and countless

pamphlets and newspapers, as well as the private papers of some gay

militants.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Michael D. Sibalis

Associate Professor

Department of History

Wilfrid Laurier University

Waterloo, Ontario

CANADA N2L 3C5

(519)-884-0710 ext. 3141

msibalis@wlu.ca



________________________________________________________________

Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 07:10:18 -0700 (MST)

From: Tim Hodgdon <Tim.Hodgdon@asu.edu>

Subject: Re: Hera Cook on gender stability

I was intrigued by Hera Cook's phrase, "regard the radical

sexual equalitarianism of the 1970s as a brief unreal

flurry, given inappropriate importance by the fact that some

of us lived through it and some - me- grew up with it."

Were you referring to the early years of gay liberation,

when key writers drew their inspiration from lesbian

feminist theory (as in the anthology *Out of the Closets*,

ed. K. Jay and A. Young)? Or were you making a different

kind of argument: that the sexual revolution could be

regarded as an instance of historical gender equality?

Tim Hodgdon

Ph.D. candidate

Faculty Associate

Department of History

Arizona State University

Tim.Hodgdon@asu.edu



________________________________________________________________

From: "Rictor Norton" <norton@rictor.freeserve.co.uk>

Subject: Re: The Importance of Being Earnest

Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:07:40 +0100

It seems almost certain that "Earnest" was some kind of homosexual code word

in the early 1890s, and that it preceded Wilde's use of it and preceded his

trials. John Gambril Nicholson's book of pederastic verse

published in 1892 was titled _Love in Earnest_. One quatrain will suffice as

example:

One name can make my pulses bound,

No peer it owns, nor parallel,

But it is Vivian's sweetness drowned,

And Roland, full as organ-swell;

Though Frank may ring like silver bell,

And Cecil softer music claim,

They cannot work the miracle, --

'Tis Ernest sets my heart a-flame.



Nicholson's book quickly became well known among pederastic circles. John

Addington Symonds began notifying friends of its existence from July 1892.

It seems very possible that the title of Wilde's play _The Importance of

Being Earnest_ was an allusion specifically to this book of poems by

Nicholson. Wilde, Nicholson (and Douglas) all contributed pieces to the same

issue of the _Chameleon_, though it is not certain that Wilde personally

knew Nicholson. Timothy d'Arch Smith's fascinating study of the

interconnection of pederastic poets is of course titled _Love in Earnest:

Some Notes on the Lives and Writings of English "Uranian" Poets from 1889 to

1930_ (1970).



Nicholson was making a pun on "earnest" and his 12/13-year-old boyfriend's

real name "Ernest". We do not know if Nicholson was aware of Ulrichs's

theories, or if he was making an additional allusion to some pre-existing

slang term for homosexual. The possible pun on earnest/urning is possible

but doubtful. If there had been any contemporary evidence of this, Timothy

d'Arch Smith no doubt would have discovered and cited it. (In a sense his

whole book is based upon this pun, but he doesn't make this explicit.)

Ulrichs's work was not translated into English, and only a limited number of

people specifically interested in

sexology (like Symonds) would have been familiar with his word "Urning".

Elite literary circles did know about Ulrichs's theory, but they almost all

used his more poetic term "Uranian" rather than "Urning". However, Charles

Kains Jackson, who was a kind of mentor of Nicholson, almost certainly did

know of Ulrichs's term.

I don't think that "Is he earning (Urning)?" would be a "convenient

cover-phrase", because virtually no one would have made the connection, that

is, "Uranian" would have been more widely known than "Urning", and the

ordinary gay man walking the street would have known neither term. Also, I

don't see that either Nicholson or Wilde make any punning allusions to

rent-boys earning money in the works in question.

Theo Aronson in _Prince Eddy and the Homosexual Underworld_ says that "In

some circles the word "earnest" was a synonym for homosexual. "Is he

earnest?" became a familiar question." Aronson does not give any

contemporary citation to support this. I suppose it is possible that this

usage arose after 1892 in circles that knew of Nicholson's poems, and that

this circle did include Wilde's circle. But D'Arch Smith's focus on

Nicholson's poems is the only contemporary evidence I've seen cited, and I

haven't seen any evidence that the term had a specialized homosexual meaning

prior to 1892. I don't think the term is included in any dictionaries of

sexual slang. I've never seen the claim that it is a code word specifically

for "rent-boy", except on this list.

The possible puns are intriguing and attractive: but more hard evidence

please!

--

Rictor Norton

mailto:norton@rictor.freeserve.co.uk

http://www.infopt.demon.co.uk/rcnorton.htm


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